vette-kid Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I'm hoping someone can post a pictures of the pedal seals at the firewall for a1936 P2. Mine are completely disintegrated and I'm having a hard time picturing how they go in. Party of my problem is that Steele lists for different items for a 36 P2, all different sizes. A picture of which direction they go in and how they stay put might help me...I hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobless Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Andy bernbaum has them $15 per set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, knobless said: Andy bernbaum has them $15 per set Have you used them? His look like at least one of the sets Steele sells. If still like to see a picture of them installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I would recommend the Steele no. 40-0217-24 as this should be the correct part for your car. To install them you have to remove the toeboard and the pedal pads. The seals then are slid, flat side up, down the shafts. After reinstalling the toeboard and pedals, reach under the car and push the seals up against the bottom of the toeboard as they seal from underneath. They stay in place by friction against the shafts. You can find cheaper rubber parts but many times the Steele parts are made from a better quality rubber and look better but that's a decision you will have to make. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 40-0217-24 40-0175-24 50-0066-24 40-0016-24 Those all show as correct for a 36 P2. I don't have a problem with the price for quality, but I'm far from certain I'm going to get that without when they list four different numbers for the same application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOutThere Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 For my '35 Dodge DU the originals appear to have been ovals but the available replacements are rectangular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Steele has the rounded ones as I wasn't sure what the Plymouth used. I have no Idea why WPC used so many different parts.The Steele no. for the rounded ones is 50-0066-24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broker'bob Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 steel sells the seals but the problem you can not get them on unless you slit them one side is the peddle the other the pivit no way to get them on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, broker'bob said: steel sells the seals but the problem you can not get them on unless you slit them one side is the peddle the other the pivit no way to get them on It's my understanding that the pedal is threaded onto the shaft. You should be able to unscrew the pedal and slip them over. I've not verified this on mine as yet, but Dad swears that is the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest broker'bob Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I own a 36 plymouth it is all one piece there is no way to get the seals on the peddle beside slice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Are the pedal pads not bolted to the shafts on a '36 Plymouth? I would have thought they were similar to the '36's. Maybe it differs between models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 On the '33 the pedals and shafts are one piece forgings. Even when things were all the way apart I couldn't get the draft pads over the big end pivot points much less the pedal. Ended up slicing them and then using contact cement to join the slice after installation. I've often wondered how the factory installed the draft pads. Can't imagine them cutting and then gluing them back together on the assembly line. Did they mold/vulcanize them directly on the shafts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 4:07 PM, jpage said: Steele has the rounded ones as I wasn't sure what the Plymouth used. I have no Idea why WPC used so many different parts.The Steele no. for the rounded ones is 50-0066-24. Forgive my ignorance, what is WPC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, vette-kid said: Forgive my ignorance, what is WPC? It's not ignorance, and it doesn't need to be forgiven! "WPC" means Walter P. Chrysler, the founder of the company bearing his name. Your question is a reminder to us all not to use jargon. Acronymns, abbreviations, and the like aren't known to every user. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Sorry..my bad! You're right John, sometimes we forget that many folks are not familiar with certain terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Ok, the pedals are two piece, at least on my car. However, I just don't see how these seals stay in place. I've removed the toe board (huge pain BTW), but there's nothing to hold it when the pedal is depressed. Seems like it would just press out into the engine bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I believe the seals are designed to seal only when the pedals are up. This is most of the time as the pedal is only down when shifting (unless you "float the gears") or are braking. Some older cars had a felt seal that was held between two metal plates on the toe board so the pedals could move up and down in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, vette-kid said: Ok, the pedals are two piece, at least on my car. However, I just don't see how these seals stay in place. I've removed the toe board (huge pain BTW), but there's nothing to hold it when the pedal is depressed. Seems like it would just press out into the engine bay Should be a little seat/indent at the point the pedal shaft makes a right angle turn that holds the seal. The seal rides on the pedal shaft and only seals when the pedal is in the released position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Well that's interesting. So I have it on the right way, I just need to push it over that little bulge a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) From your photo it looks like the seal is upside down. If the seal is tight against the floorboard, it comes to rest underneath, right? Alternative fix, move to a warmer climate! Edited November 22, 2019 by Steve9 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vette-kid Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) The flat side will go against the outside of the toe board, from my understanding. And I'm already in Florida! It's warm enough! I'm more worried about fumes, road grunge and water intrusion than cold. Edited November 23, 2019 by vette-kid (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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