MrEarl Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Buick? What year? Value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Barrett Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 They are accessory demountable wheels for pre-1917 model T Ford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Thanks, the seller said they had Buick hubcaps on them when purchased 15 years ago and that that seller claimed they were off a ‘16 Buick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 So no way they could be Buicks? The seller is adamant that they had Buick hubcaps on them (15 years ago) my interest in them is for display in the Buick Sales and Service garage. Don’t see many with the white tires still on them. So whether Buick or Ford, can someone suggest a value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 Wow thanks for all the info @Ben Perfitt I'll ask the seller what size they are. Doubting I'll end up with these as they currently reside on the Oregon coast (Tillamook) plus the owner while realizing they are wall hangings think they are rare and high dollar wall hangings. It's an antique shop I've done business with before though so I may make an offer. I did google and find some interesting info regarding white tires though. Reading this makes me wonder if the wheels may be older than the teens. let’s take a look at whitewall history in the automobile manufacturing world. Originally, tires were off-white in color, due to the color of the natural rubber formula. Tire manufacturers then added zinc oxide to the formula, which gave the tires a brighter white appearance. White tires were not a status symbol or aesthetic feature—it was just how the tires were produced. The tires would quickly turn to a beige color as they traversed the dirt roads of yesteryear. It wasn’t until 1910 that BFGoodrich started adding carbon black to its tires, as this ingredient added strength and durability to the rubber. Soon, most new cars rolled out of the factory on black tires, as this updated chemistry resulted in a stronger tire. Since adding carbon black to the rubber was an additional production cost, some tire companies added it only to the tread surface. This resulted in the first tire with a white sidewall quite by accident. The whitewall would later be refined, and it eventually transitioned to a strip of white rubber being added to the tire’s all-black carcass during the manufacturing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 What rim diameter are they? Detroiter 1913 used 32 x 3 1/2 clincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Lamar, The first thing that I thought when I saw them was Model T wheels and as said earlier an aftermarket upgrade. If the seller is so adamant that they came off a Buick, ask him for the hubcap to see that it fits. Just a thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Ben, You are a very good researcher. I really like the fact that you have some of the old catalogs and manuals to back up what you are saying. One cannot argue with the written word on the page. Please keep up the good work because it helps not only you, but, all of us on here. Terry Wiegand Out in Doo Dah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Ben, In the middle to late teens Buick used at least two wheel manufacturers. There was Baker and Jaxon that I knew about. My '16 used Baker wheels. And then a few years ago I learned about the Perlman wheels. I am really glad that you and others keep uncovering the information that shows that there were others out there doing the same thing in this time frame. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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