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Are you good with tools? If so take the accessory step plate off and  get rid of it or step up and buy two more and install in the PROPER location. That is the first tip that there are other problems with this vehicle. Buying public isn't as dumb as you think. Bob  Fordor1.jpe

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Also how do I get this to Hershey?

 

go sign up with AAA for the free 100 mile tows and have it towed to Hershey...........

 

a car identical to your car sold up in Allentown about a yr ago for 4500. I didnt buy it because my plate was full. could your car be the car, expecting a nice ROI?

 

everyone was very polite on the last thread, surprisingly. now you have asked for and recd the truth. use it to your benefit and stop the complaining

 

a good reference is the sold cars on ebay-with that in mind, your car would sell for 7500-8500. with no problem, but 9500? no way..

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Older cars are too complicated for the younger generation. They only want things that are controlled by pushing a button.. They remind me of an old joke about money falling off the trees, "I`ll pick you up tomorrow, I ain`t working my first day"..

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The younger generation seem to have much different old car interests than Model A's. My son and one of his friends think Nissan Sylvia's {240 SX's } are where it is at. Another friend is very partial to 2nd gen Firebirds.  Something like a Model A Ford makes about as much sense to them as a buckboard.

Even when I think of Model A's it is generally as a lightly modified Pickup, Roadster , or Touring. And I am in my early 60's. 

 Very few younger people can manage anything other than a car that can be both a hobby and a daily driver. There are always a few young people that are interested in their grandfathers or great grandfathers car but they seem to be quite few in number.

 Your potential market is almost certainly someone 50 and up. And in my experience few people in that age group are expanding their hobby car ownership. I know a number of people in my general age category that want to downsize. I know a few people that have bought hobby cars over the last year or so. Generally one quite nice car following the sale of a few secondary  cars or project cars.

 I have nothing against Model A's. However there are always a number of them on the market so buyers are becoming very choosy.

 

Greg in Canada

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51 minutes ago, 48Firetruck said:

And for what it's worth, IMO, Craigslist is all but dead. I seldom ever look there anymore for anything. Facebook Marketplace is free, safer, easier to communicate with the seller and it's linked to literally hundreds of club and car enthusiast pages where your car will be exposed to thousands of people who are actually interested in that type as opposed to Craigslist where you might get 2-3 people who see your ad only because they took the the time to type "Model A" into the search bar.

 

Don't you have to be a Facebook member to use Facebook marketplace ? Safer ??? I am sure there are riskier sites out there than Facebook , but from what I have heard in general about it I can't imagine anyone belonging to it and exposing themselves to all the baggage that comes along with membership.

 Any good reason Facebook users would be any less flakey than Craigslist users ?

 

Greg in Canada

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The single biggest thing that makes this hobby suck is the fact that everyone thinks it should be profitable. It is not. It never has been. Somewhere along the line people just assumed that cars getting older also means they're getting more valuable. Like most things, value is subjective and it's just as likely that prices will go down as go up. As they say in the stock market: past performance is no indicator of future gains. If you own a 55-57 Chevy or Thunderbird or a dozen other formerly blue-chip "collector" cars, you're already upside-down. Model As are in the same boat.

 

Do you expect to make money when you go on vacation? Do the guys who golf or fish or boat or whittle things out of wood expect to get their money back when they're done? Do the guys who watch sports or play video games or join virtual sports leagues expect to make a little cash for their efforts? Do guys who build models expect to sell them for a profit? Do guys who play softball figure they can sell their mitts back to the store when they're done for full retail plus a little extra because they broke it in and oiled it?

 

Why are old cars special? Why do they need to be profitable? Spend your money, have your fun, and you still get A LOT of your money back! What other hobby even does that much for its participants? None, that's how many. If you sell your car for half what you paid for it, the fun you had STILL only cost you $0.50 on the dollar. Walt Disney World sure as hell isn't giving people 50% rebates after they get home.

 

Honestly, how much time have you really spent on the car to get it ready? Everyone here is right--spend a weekend really cleaning and detailing that thing like your life depends on it. Get a cleaner wax and go over the entire car carefully. Yes, your rags will turn green and black, that's the point. You're uncovering fresh paint, removing oxidation, and bringing out the shine. Do it by hand and you won't hurt anything, don't use a machine. See if you can find some paint that matches better than the John Deere green spray can someone used to touch up the cowl and roof. Degrease the engine and get some Ford Green engine enamel and brush-touch the areas that are flaking and if they're rusty, hit it with a Scotch-Brite pad before you dab the paint on. Paint that rusty generator--just plain satin black would be fine. Clean the firewall as best as you can without removing paint. Clean the fuel stains off the carburetor (I can't see them, but I know they're there). If the exhaust manifold is rusty hit it with a wire brush and paint it satin black with the high-heat exhaust paint. Get those whitewalls white--I mean REALLY white. I can't see the interior but I presume it needs vacuuming, so do that. I bet the instrument panel is tarnished, so go after that with some Nevr-Dull or very fine steel wool. And lose the mud flaps.

 

All that is stuff that you can do that primarily costs time and not much money. Presentation matters--look at Auburnseeker's post with the same Cadillac before and after. Why do I have a full-time detailer on staff? Presentation matters and the moment you give someone an out, they're moving on to the next car.

 

Everyone says that young people are ruining the hobby. You know what really ruins the hobby? People trying to get all their money back plus the money they spent on repairs/maintenance/storage/insurance along the way plus a little profit just because.

 

THAT is what sucks about the hobby.

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45 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

The single biggest thing that makes this hobby suck is the fact that everyone thinks it should be profitable. It is not. It never has been. Somewhere along the line people just assumed that cars getting older also means they're getting more valuable. Like most things, value is subjective and it's just as likely that prices will go down as go up. As they say in the stock market: past performance is no indicator of future gains. If you own a 55-57 Chevy or Thunderbird or a dozen other formerly blue-chip "collector" cars, you're already upside-down. Model As are in the same boat.

 

Do you expect to make money when you go on vacation? Do the guys who golf or fish or boat or whittle things out of wood expect to get their money back when they're done? Do the guys who watch sports or play video games or join virtual sports leagues expect to make a little cash for their efforts? Do guys who build models expect to sell them for a profit? Do guys who play softball figure they can sell their mitts back to the store when they're done for full retail plus a little extra because they broke it in and oiled it?

 

Why are old cars special? Why do they need to be profitable? Spend your money, have your fun, and you still get A LOT of your money back! What other hobby even does that much for its participants? None, that's how many. If you sell your car for half what you paid for it, the fun you had STILL only cost you $0.50 on the dollar. Walt Disney World sure as hell isn't giving people 50% rebates after they get home.

 

Honestly, how much time have you really spent on the car to get it ready? Everyone here is right--spend a weekend really cleaning and detailing that thing like your life depends on it. Get a cleaner wax and go over the entire car carefully. Yes, your rags will turn green and black, that's the point. You're uncovering fresh paint, removing oxidation, and bringing out the shine. Do it by hand and you won't hurt anything, don't use a machine. See if you can find some paint that matches better than the John Deere green spray can someone used to touch up the cowl and roof. Degrease the engine and get some Ford Green engine enamel and brush-touch the areas that are flaking and if they're rusty, hit it with a Scotch-Brite pad before you dab the paint on. Paint that rusty generator--just plain satin black would be fine. Clean the firewall as best as you can without removing paint. Clean the fuel stains off the carburetor (I can't see them, but I know they're there). If the exhaust manifold is rusty hit it with a wire brush and paint it satin black with the high-heat exhaust paint. Get those whitewalls white--I mean REALLY white. I can't see the interior but I presume it needs vacuuming, so do that. I bet the instrument panel is tarnished, so go after that with some Nevr-Dull or very fine steel wool. And lose the mud flaps.

 

All that is stuff that you can do that primarily costs time and not much money. Presentation matters--look at Auburnseeker's post with the same Cadillac before and after. Why do I have a full-time detailer on staff? Presentation matters and the moment you give someone an out, they're moving on to the next car.

 

Everyone says that young people are ruining the hobby. You know what really ruins the hobby? People trying to get all their money back plus the money they spent on repairs/maintenance/storage/insurance along the way plus a little profit just because.

 

THAT is what sucks about the hobby.

There better be some money in old cars, or your dealership will fail.:huh:

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2 minutes ago, Xander Wildeisen said:

There better be some money in old cars, or your dealership will fail.:huh:

 

I am very upside-down on my personal cars. Margins on cars that I sell are something entirely different.

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It is an industry/hobby/trade/market. Money is made everywhere with in the industry. If it just a hobby, learn the values of what you like, shop around and buy right, you will get your money back.;)

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We haven't seen ant shots of the pristine original interior, have we?

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3 hours ago, 60FlatTop said:

Each successive generation seems to find fault with everything about their replacements and they all turn out the same.

 

Didn't Mark Twain state that when he was 15, he thought his father was the dumbest man alive, and when he turned 18 he couldn't believe how much the old man learned in just 3 years?

 

-Ron

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2 hours ago, 48Firetruck said:

And for what it's worth, IMO, Craigslist is all but dead. I seldom ever look there anymore for anything. Facebook Marketplace is free, safer, easier to communicate with the seller and it's linked to literally hundreds of club and car enthusiast pages where your car will be exposed to thousands of people who are actually interested in that type as opposed to Craigslist where you might get 2-3 people who see your ad only because they took the the time to type "Model A" into the search bar.

It sure seems like it!  I started to do Facebook, and was alarmed at the folks it identified for me to contact.  I don't like that.  And so my Facebook experience lasted all of about a minute.

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2 hours ago, mercer09 said:

Also how do I get this to Hershey?

 

go sign up with AAA for the free 100 mile tows and have it towed to Hershey...........

 

a car identical to your car sold up in Allentown about a yr ago for 4500. I didnt buy it because my plate was full. could your car be the car, expecting a nice ROI?

 

everyone was very polite on the last thread, surprisingly. now you have asked for and recd the truth. use it to your benefit and stop the complaining

 

a good reference is the sold cars on ebay-with that in mind, your car would sell for 7500-8500. with no problem, but 9500? no way..

You're on!  I think I will list it on Ebay on Saturday with an opening bid of $7000 and see where it goes!

 

I have had this one for over 5 years now.  I have over 9K into it.  I bought it for $8250.  I was hoping to at least break even.  You couldn't touch these for $8250 in 2014, so I thought it was a good price.

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Now at $9299 on Craigslist...if anyone is interested. 

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Okay, I lied, slightly.  Opening bid will be $7250, going live 10:00 PDT Saturday.  This covers some of the extraneous fees.

 

I am in over my head.  I just don't have the resources y'all do.  I don't.  Getting this to Hershey would be a major ordeal, finding a place to keep this already is.

 

Let's hope it cracks 9k at least.

 

It's nice to have a truck and trailer, a nice property to keep several cars at, the financial wherewithal to fix anything and everything the best possible way.

 

That's just out of my league right now.  Believe me, I'd love to collect Packards and early brass stuff--but I can't.

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14 minutes ago, mrcvs said:

Now at $9299 on Craigslist...if anyone is interested. 

I went this route a few months ago selling my truck....just about all the buyers were scammers... it was relentless, the same with Ebay, but not as bad. After a month of the nonsense, I removed the listing from those venues and listed on Hemmings....sold within two weeks. The FB Market was new to me as well, I tried it out with selling my auto lift - sold that day !

 

Just my opinion.....

 

Good Luck with the sale.

 

Steve

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10 hours ago, mrcvs said:

...and no surprise why younger folks just aren't that interested in the hobby, and it's hurting!

 

 

How is your failure to attract a buyer related to your statement?

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4 hours ago, mrcvs said:

How do you even see what others like this sell for?  Craigslist only has my local market with limited similar cars for sale.  Hemmings is all I know, and that's more national and high end.

 

I never represented this car as a show car.  It's a fun driver.

Go to Ebay, click on advanced search, and select completed listings. You won't be very happy with what you find. I checked Model A Fords on there earlier today and saw that they have recently been selling for a bit less than I expected. 

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4 hours ago, mrcvs said:

Also how do I get this to Hershey?

 

Drive it. If you sell it, you can call a friend to pick you up and bring you home. Otherwise, you can rent a uhaul auto transport trailer and tow it with a pickup truck. If you don't have a pickup truck, you can borrow or rent one. 

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20 minutes ago, MCHinson said:

 

Drive it. If you sell it, you can call a friend to pick you up and bring you home. Otherwise, you can rent a uhaul auto transport trailer and tow it with a pickup truck. If you don't have a pickup truck, you can borrow or rent one. 

Is the Car Corral for AACA members or car anyone just show up? Bob  

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Matt, much easier to use AAA.................... 91. a year for 4 free 100 mile hauls...............

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AAA will haul an operational vehicle that doesn't need to be towed for free?

 

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22 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

Is the Car Corral for AACA members or car anyone just show up? Bob  

 

You would have to be an AACA Member to sell a car in the Car Corral. If you were not a member, you could join quickly and inexpensively. 

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1 hour ago, 48Firetruck said:

Dealerships are a little different, you're not just blindly buying a car at a swap meet or sketchy online listing. Dealers don't sell cars, they sell a SERVICE that provides cars which have been gone over, detailed and don't hold surprises. More importantly though is once you decide on that "must have" particular car , you can find a dealer who's done all the work of locating it and either has one ready to go on their floor or knows where one is. That's worth something,...or you could save a few bucks and look around for possibly years trying to find a pristine example that may never come. 

I sent a guy Matt's  direction just for that reason on a car. All different parts of an industry. Hobbyist can make a few bucks on their cars, you just have to learn a little about what you are buying. There are great buys out there on just about every type of car. Buy a car that they made 6 million of, you might have a hard time getting top dollar, unless condition and body style are working in your favor. 

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