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ebay Wildcat with 2000 miles.

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2000 miles according to the owner. Seems plausible, though there is some pitting on the radiator fan blades and the alternator housing, but I guess that could be from the mere passage of time if the storage was less than ideal. The current owner says he has owned it for 9 years and bought it from the original owner when it had 1300 miles on it. It is very clean, but doesn't look like it's been primped or polished up. I'm guessing it's pretty original. He says he has the original tires and wheels for it. I didn't put it in the Buick section because my intent wasn't to promote a sale, but to let you guys see what might be the optimum scenario in original low mile cars.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Buick-Wildcat/303256909759?hash=item469b8537bf:g:-bsAAOSws9tdMI2J

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Could be plausible but wounder about the 2 previous owners not driving it because they did not like it?  Also, doubt that it is exactly 2000 miles. even 20,000 miles would be too few miles to not be sure of. I think engines need to be run to keep them oiled and I wouldn't buy it unless I wanted to not drive it, have the rubber bushings, belts and hoses, among other things survived?

I'd negotiate a lower cost then what they want and sit back to see if they come down before going further. 

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This happens, my ex Father in law got some bug to buy a corvette after he retired, he bought it and then realized how difficult it was to get in and out of and all around impractical for a 70 year old guy to be driving, it sat for close to 20 years with less than a thousand miles on it. It was an early 80's model (less desirable as I understand it), but it still sold for quite a bit out of his estate.

 

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17 minutes ago, Doug Novak said:

Could be plausible but wounder about the 2 previous owners not driving it because they did not like it?  Also, doubt that it is exactly 2000 miles. even 20,000 miles would be too few miles to not be sure of. I think engines need to be run to keep them oiled and I wouldn't buy it unless I wanted to not drive it, have the rubber bushings, belts and hoses, among other things survived?

I'd negotiate a lower cost then what they want and sit back to see if they come down before going further. 

It has 2019 miles.  It’s all in the advertisement.  Many questions are answered by reading it.

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This reminds me of my '69 Impala that I purchased in 2004. It was advertised as a original, 4900 mile vehicle. Two owner vehicle that was located in Audubon, Mn. The individual that was selling it , purchased it from the estate of the second owner... the car just sat in storage and he was just going to flip it. It still has the service sticker in the door jam from 1980 with just over 1000 miles listed ... the original dealership that sold the vehicle did the service on it.  Seems crazy how a vehicle just sat, and it's just a Plain Jane vehicle.

 

Steve

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A kid I knew in high school had a 68 Vette Roadster with extremely low miles. It had been bought new in the early summer after a graduation and driven about 2000 miles before the young guy went into Vietnam. The parents wouldn’t sell it as it was a last, and very precious memory of their son. In the early 80’s when they decided to move south it was given to the teenager next door who helped cut grass and do odd jobs for them, but from what I remember, every engine seal and all the brake lines cylinders etc. needed replacement before he could drive it. It took him quite a while but it was at school on the last day of our senior year. This isn’t an urban legend to me as I was there, and helped work on it a few times but even now I still can’t believe his luck...

 

So, as for the Wildcat, it could be that it’s had an odometer “fixed” to make it appear low mileage but the lack of wear on the front seat and drivers side of the carpet makes me think it’s very likely a low mileage car. Those things can’t be faked easily. Sometimes it is what it is...

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18 hours ago, STEVE POLLARD said:

This reminds me of my '69 Impala that I purchased in 2004. It was advertised as a original, 4900 mile vehicle. Two owner vehicle that was located in Audubon, Mn. The individual that was selling it , purchased it from the estate of the second owner... the car just sat in storage and he was just going to flip it. It still has the service sticker in the door jam from 1980 with just over 1000 miles listed ... the original dealership that sold the vehicle did the service on it.  Seems crazy how a vehicle just sat, and it's just a Plain Jane vehicle.

 

Steve

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I'm really loving that Impala, Steve. Would it be possible to post more pics of it? How many miles does it have now?

 

I mentioned that I had a '66, but my dad bought a slightly used '69 four door in either '69 or '70. I remember the purchase year because we bought it from a student teacher in my 6th grade class. I always thought the '69 full size Chevy had a very modern look to it. I still do. The only thing my dad complained about with the car was the grille. Up to that time grilles on most cars were metal. The plastic grille seemed very futuristic to us at the time, but over time it cracked and he didn't like that. I'm guessing it's hard to find intact original grilles?

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Thanks James. It has just over 7000 miles now... yes, those grills can crack easy now, due to the age, but original ones are out there...My parents purchased a new 1969 Impala Sport Sedan from the local Chevrolet Dealership in the fall of '69. I was with them when Mom picked it out..... parked all the way in the back of the lot since the '70's were out front. They paid $3000 cash for it...lol  Dover White exterior, Black interior and a Black vinyl top.... no a/c.... I can't tell you how hot that car was during the summer months !  The picture I posted above was at the Hemmings Motor News New England Concours d'Elegance in Stratton Mountain, Vermont in 2010... It was runner up in the Preservation category.... 

Some pictures:

 

 

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I bought  my 1980 Plymouth Volare with 8400 miles on it in 2007.  Changed the rubber parts, shocks and flat spotted tires.  Been driving it ever since. Now about 30,000 miles on it. No issues from the lack of use. Spent most of it’s life in a heated garage in Cincinnati. In fact I drove it home to north of Chicago.

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Beautiful Chevy...both in condition and styling. Congrats on the show success. Here's a Chevy question: I believe Chevy made both a 350 and a 327 in '69. Why?

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I know a guy who bought two or three cars just like this but with actually no miles. They came out of a closed/deceased dealers collection and I’m not sure if they were ever titled. All were black with that shiny blue metallic looking vinyl interior. I believe it was two Buick’s and one pontiac. I saw them in person and they were virtually new. You opened the door and there was even plastic still in places. Early seventies cars, both two and four doors. Can’t remember the models and specifics but they were all time capsules. They are out there.

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8 hours ago, JamesR said:

I believe Chevy made both a 350 and a 327 in '69. Why?

Good question !   I've had four '69 Impala's at one time, three were 327 and 427....   maybe a member here will chime in with specifics on this. 

 

 

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Super nice car Steve and it was runner up in preservation?......... what the heck was first, your car looks like new, it had to be close!

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Thanks !  The winner was a 1973 Chevrolet Vega GT... it was beautiful, still had it's original tires on it I believe... you can see it in this photo.

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The Wildcat listing has ended.... so I'm guessing it didn't sell, unless it sold outside of ebay ?

 

Nice Buick !

 

 

 

Steve

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Listed again....price lowered ......

On 8/21/2019 at 5:49 PM, JamesR said:

2000 miles according to the owner. Seems plausible, though there is some pitting on the radiator fan blades and the alternator housing, but I guess that could be from the mere passage of time if the storage was less than ideal. The current owner says he has owned it for 9 years and bought it from the original owner when it had 1300 miles on it. It is very clean, but doesn't look like it's been primped or polished up. I'm guessing it's pretty original. He says he has the original tires and wheels for it. I didn't put it in the Buick section because my intent wasn't to promote a sale, but to let you guys see what might be the optimum scenario in original low mile cars.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Buick-Wildcat/303309405595?hash=item469ea63d9b:g:-bsAAOSws9tdMI2J

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On 8/21/2019 at 6:19 PM, 39BuickEight said:

Many questions are answered by reading it.

When all else fails, read the directions.

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Late to this parade but can see why a woman would not like it, looks like close to zero options. May be missing something but do not even see a power steering pump (not sure what that is on far lower side of the engine shot) much less an AC compressor, may have been just too hard to drive.

 

As to the Chev 350 it was introed on the 67 SS Camaro and was a disaster, crank oiling issues. In '68 they increased both the crank bearing size and went to four bolt mains so the '68 327 is prized for its bottom end strength but all of the failures in the 67 poisoned it a bit. Same thing happened with the 70 Pontiac 455. Meanwhile back at Chev it's purpose was to get the sans coulottes to buy the SS-350 (295hp rated) and not the Z28 302 (290 hp rated). In the late 60's Chevrolet and Pontiac both used massive derating to keep the really good engines for the real racers. e.g. the top 'vette engine then was the 435 hp rated tripower while the single quad L-88 was derated to 430hp so only those who knew what it was went for the L-88. Back in the day, one sign that an engine/drivetrain was something special was the legend "NA with C60" - not available with air conditioner.

 

In 1978 I had to put 25%, $1000 down to ordfer a car to be delivered in south Florida that was NA with C60. Won a lot of autocrosses with that Sunbird.

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10 hours ago, padgett said:

Late to this parade but can see why a woman would not like it, looks like close to zero options. May be missing something but do not even see a power steering pump (not sure what that is on far lower side of the engine shot) much less an AC compressor, may have been just too hard to drive.

 

As to the Chev 350 it was introed on the 67 SS Camaro and was a disaster, crank oiling issues. In '68 they increased both the crank bearing size and went to four bolt mains so the '68 327 is prized for its bottom end strength but all of the failures in the 67 poisoned it a bit. Same thing happened with the 70 Pontiac 455. Meanwhile back at Chev it's purpose was to get the sans coulottes to buy the SS-350 (295hp rated) and not the Z28 302 (290 hp rated). In the late 60's Chevrolet and Pontiac both used massive derating to keep the really good engines for the real racers. e.g. the top 'vette engine then was the 435 hp rated tripower while the single quad L-88 was derated to 430hp so only those who knew what it was went for the L-88. Back in the day, one sign that an engine/drivetrain was something special was the legend "NA with C60" - not available with air conditioner.

 

In 1978 I had to put 25%, $1000 down to ordfer a car to be delivered in south Florida that was NA with C60. Won a lot of autocrosses with that Sunbird.

I read it twice & still am wondering what it means. Seems like sentences on 2 or 3 subjects all jumbled together.

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11 hours ago, padgett said:

As to the Chev 350 it was introed on the 67 SS Camaro and was a disaster, crank oiling issues. In '68 they increased both the crank bearing size and went to four bolt mains

 Wow, very interesting. I didn't know that. I thought all SBC's were blessed from heaven, so it's a shock to hear that some actually had issues.😁 Thanks for the lowdown on the simultaneous 327/350 offerings, padgett. Wish I had  one of my sbc powered cars from my youth...I also had a '70 Monte Carlo with a 350, all stock. This was back when you could buy decent used examples for under 1000 bucks. 😊

 

I hope they sell that Wildcat. Whatever the mileage is, it's a beauty.

 

 

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I almost bought a '70 Monte Carlo when I came back from SEA but they would not sell me the big engine with a four speed. Buick was happy to build me a GS with 4-speed, posi, full instruments, AC and power everything. First time I saw a 21 spline clutch.

 

Four items: the Olds (too bare bones for me), answered the early 327/350 question, which flowed into the games GM played this HP ratings back then. Finally mentioned how to identify the "interesting" engine when they played games with the ratings. Separated such with paras.

 

Is how I think.

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2 hours ago, padgett said:

I almost bought a '70 Monte Carlo when I came back from SEA but they would not sell me the big engine with a four speed.

 

They did not sell it to you because it was not offered

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Did Monte Carlo ever offer a big block option?  I remember there was a 454 offered in Chevelle in 1973.

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AFAIR there was a 402 (396) offered but only with automagic.

 

BTW I have bought GM cars with things that were not officially offered before, just in 1970 they did not certify the 402/4 speed combo.

 

Naturally I can't find my 1971 edition of Bill Carroll's Chevrolet V8 Performance Guide. It lists everything available by RPO and engine number. Know it is in my den....

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