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Ed Miller
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For the last eight days I have had the top down on my 1932 Packard 12 Convertible Sedan. It feels as if I'm driving a differant Packard! It feels faster, quieter and smoother than with the top up. Also, I can actually see all around me. It's even more enjoyable to drive than with the top up.

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Yeah....what a wierd sensation....know exactly what you are talking about...I have a top on my '36 American La France fire engine...big 800 cu in V-12.....odd...how "clunky" it feels with the top UP...go figure......!

I did, some years ago, hire a model to pose with the fire engine, for a tool calendadr shot...she was BOTH topless AND bottomless.....sitting on the fender...with the motor off...all you could hear were the sighs of the onlookers.....but that is another story.

Pete Hartmann

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Eddie 33 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" /> When I was visiting you the one thing that made nervous driving your 32 was the lack of vision to the sides and rearward. This had been he first time I had driven a classic car. When I rode in your friends Caddy to the show I put the world in a diffferent light riding in a convertible. I hadn't had a ride in a car with top top down since I rode in my friends 57 T Bird many years ago. When Harold got his 55 T Bird one sunday in November we took a ride with the top down. It was colder than heck out we both caught head colds. Both Harold I were in the doghouse with my mother when she found out how I got my cold.

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I can use a copy of those pictures too. I have pictures of contistants from the Miss El Paso Tropicana bikini contest in my 1942 Packard. They were more than I could take!

My 42, with the blind quarters is impossible to back up. I dented a rear finder first tiem out after restoration backing up. I saw a video on TV of a little old lady parallel parking her 40 ford convertible. Got it right the first tiem too! She ws a better driver than I.

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DField, take care of your 1942 Packard. How's the family. It's been three years since we met at the Packard Centennial! Also, I just returned from a Florida Packard Club meet at Sarasota. There were at least two hundred people in attendance the parking lot was filled to over flowing. Here's a sampling of some of the Packards in attendance: 1931 Dietrich convertible Victoria, 1932 Shovel Nose Convertible Coupe, 1933 Packard Twelve Convertible Sedan (mine), 1934 Eight Convertible Sedan, 1934 seven passenger Sedan, 1937 Twelve Coupe and 1939 Twelve Convertible Victoria, 1940 160 Convertible Sedan. There were plenty of pre '30 and post-war Packards in attendance but you know what interests me. the next meet is in February...I'll be there!

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What is this about some kind of Packard event in Florida in Feb. ? I am attending the Lake Aircraft Owner's Convention in Florida in early Feb...in the Winterhaven - Bartow area...which is not much in flying time to anywhere in Florida.. Tell me more...when...where....no...I can't fit the Packard Twelve in the luggage compartment of my LAKE...but I can bring my photo albums.....!

Pete Hartmann

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Don't know if there is a February event, but on March 16, 2003 the Florida Packard Club (a PAC Region) is holding a Spring Meet. It is in Vero Beach. "No entry fee, judging or trophies, just plenty of Packards" they say. Contact: Tom Kaiser <flpackardclub@webtv.net>

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cnbed (alias Stuart Blond) is correct about the March meet. But there is also another Florida Packard Club meet at Riverview, Florida on February 15, 2003. Let me know if you are coming. I'll bring my copy of your two CCCA articles to autograph. By the way I thought there were at least 200 people at the Sarasota meet. The revised estimate is 500 to 700 people...and many of them were in their 20s! I never saw such a lively marque meet in my life.

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Eddie - I will be in the Winterhaven-Bartow area beginning the weekend of Feb 8, for our LAKE AIRCRAFT Owner's Convention. The convention will run thru Wed. I MAY...again MAY have to start back to Arizona right afterwards..and, unfortunately, will not know until that week, if I can stay another few day and come down to wherever this Packard Club meet is. Let's keep in touch ! ( who knows..maybe if I got a few minutes with your Packard Twelve, and some ordinary car buff test equipment (dwell guage, vacuum guage, timing light...and cold beer ) I could figure out why you are only getting 8 mpg.....!

Pete Hartmann

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Peter, after your show and before going to the Riverview, Florida Packard meet you might want to consider a detour to Naples, Florida. I'll introduce you to my Packard (and my Cadillac). There are a few other interesting automobiles in the neighborhood including a 1933 Packard Twelve Sport Phaeton (ex-Briggs Cunnigham collection and currently in the Collier Collection). Or if you would like to be a little differant how about a 1932 Marmon 16 Convertible Sedan? Or a 1935 Duesenberg SSJ? Our little town has a few interesting automobiles that may interest you.

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Eddie...thank you for your gracious invitation....! I accept...! Only question now...is will my schedue permit me to follow thru.

Let's get in touch by telephone during the first week of Feb, and we will see what we can do.

One of my good friends, the late Al Bartz, was a world-famous re-builder of Marmon V-16's; you should have seen his machine shop and engine test stand...he re-built many of the Marmon V-16's aroundd.... I remember many found moments of road-racing with his against my Packard Twelve....he could "pull" me..but not by much...! So I do have exposure to...and much respect for the magnificent Marmon V-16.

Perhaps you know Randy Ema, who is probably the surviving world expert on "doozies" - randy and I in years past, have had fun debating the merits of our respective interests... so, I am SOMEWHAT familiar with that marque, too.

DAMN...this would be fun...of COURSE I will see what I can do to make this work !

Pete Hartmann

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Well.. I cannot let this thread die without the following story.

(I once related this story in a very early version of a Packard chat, which has long since demised, so therefore, for those "new" chatters, here goes.)

When I first moved to Las Vegas about 9 years ago, I very soon after made an aquaintance with a couple of sisters who were in the "entertainment" industry here at a local establishment. Some years later, after befriending them, and then purchasing my first Packard (1955 Patrician), I invited them over to my house to see my new collector car. They were thrilled with my Pat and insisted that we go for a cruise.

The blonde sister, "Kim", who is quite a car person, insisted that we cruise the [Las Vegas] strip. So, I agreed. Kim drove and I rode "shotgun" and her sister "Paige" was in the back seat and we headed for the "Strip".

On the "Strip", Kim kept yelling to those gawkers on the sidewalk: "How do you like my car?" [she obviously loved it]. Her sister Paige, apparently deciding that she could not be upstaged by her sister driving decided to "flash" the pedestrians! This she did, and not only once. The pedestrians loved both my Pat and her "display".

Only in Las Vegas (maybe).

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