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I have unfortunately had a overdrive failure in my 1937.

So I'm' looking for a replacement planetary unit or gears to suit a R-6  overdrive.

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully accepted! 

I was hoping to have it fixed before the next rally in 5 weeks time, but I maybe to ambitious!

I might have to look for a replacement overdrive to suit my 1937 dodge instead?

Thanks Terry

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What is wrong with it? I can't see from here - my telescope is too short.

 

Mine ('39) was pretty puffed. The planetary gears were in good condition, just slightly oversize inside (0.0015"). The needle bearings were worn square and barrel shaped. The gears rocked alarmingly. I had new pins made, slightly oversize and put in new needle bearings. I couldn't get individual needles so I put in a full complement caged needle bearing - it was a perfect fit. The only problem with this fix is that the needles are a bit shorter than the individual needles because there is a cage at each end.

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In answer to the comments, what wrong with it.

Is has chewed up the three bronze gears and springs plus the gear's teeths are pretty well rusted beyond use!

The cage itself is well worn (stuffed) where the end of the pins rub.

Other than that it looks good!

 

 

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Thanks for all the replies. I have located all the parts I required!

But now I'm in need of information on how to put it back together!  

Any diagrams and instructions  on a R-6 overdrive would be a great help! 

It might just stop me in making a mistake in assembly. 

I did look on the Internet, but only found stuff on R-10  (electric)

The R- 6  is mechanical only.

So please help!

Terry

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National Service Data manual pages:

restorecarsclassifieds.com/wiki/show_pdf.pdf?n=4849

restorecarsclassifieds.com/wiki/show_pdf.pdf?n=4850

 

OK, 1937 Studebaker OD is not simple. There was the Dictator, which changed to the second type during the year, then there was the President OD, which was new and different. The President could be cut in or out of OD at any speed above 35 mph, without electric control.

 

I wonder which is most similar to your version?

 

On further research I seem to find that the 1937 Dodge did not have an OD trans. offered. So what do you have?

 

I see in 2017 you said you had

"On further investigation, 

It appears to be R6 -1 OD   and a T86-1P      W.G.DIV    11.19.35  box."

 

T86-1P was native to Chrysler '37 C14, Imp; C16. Roy.; also De Soto '37. But that doesn't square with the casting date you also seem to have given of Nov 1935?

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Thanks for the help!

You are right my 1937 did not have an overdrive,I fit one that I brought from a bloke which was a complete unit as per the photo.

He said that it was out of a Chrysler.  The numbers you have are correct R-6 O/D  &   T86-1P box

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there are four pages of info. on them at (scroll down a bit):

http://p15-d24.com/blogs/entry/88-the-rough-field-spotters-guide-for-mopar-overdrives/

 

Remember: NO gear oil with EP additives in the gearbox unless the Copper Strip Corrosion Test result is 1a (ASTM D130), because there are important brass parts in there.

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Just got the box back together!  Took my time, checking everything I could!

All seems good , won't know for sure until I do a road test . I just cross my fingers! !!!

Must thank everyone  for  the  help!! With a extra big thanks to spinneyhill! !!

Thanks 

Terry 

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On 7/29/2019 at 3:06 AM, aunty norm said:

Just got the box back together!  Took my time, checking everything I could!

All seems good , won't know for sure until I do a road test . I just cross my fingers! !!!

Must thank everyone  for  the  help!! With a extra big thanks to spinneyhill! !!

Thanks 

Terry 

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