Acceler8 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Hello, I am looking to ID this car for a friend. It was taken in upstate New York likely between 1912 and 1916. I don't know much else other than that. I have tried to ID myself (looked at Oldsmobile Touring and Defenders, Cadillacs, and even Haynes). None had the combination of flat fenders, segmented hood section (near the front windshield), or the front seat which was wider than the body. Any help is much appreciated! Thanks! --Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acceler8 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 Wow, over 100 views; but no replies... Was I able to stump the band? I am still actively searching, but still haven't been able to find a positive ID. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 ...looks a little Rainier-ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Does the license plate say KY 1910? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30sclassics Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 License plate appears to be New York, 1913. This is the only year they used that style plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Whatever it is , it's a nice , mid sized , good quality, pony tonneau. Circa 1910. Most makes had one in their line up. They are very desirable today. Unfortunately there were a great number of makes on the market at the time and most were very similar in appearance. Exact ID may be very difficult. Greg in Canada Edited August 2, 2019 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Very unusual windshield on this car. There appears to be a long rod outside the car where the shifter should be and I don't see a hand brake. Is this a friction car? There is a friction car, whose name escapes me at the moment, that is a large HP car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 My first question was going to be "are you thinking of Lambert?" They built friction drive cars small and large in those years. I don't think it is a Lambert. Then I thought, maybe you are thinking about Cartercar? It just may be a Cartercar. They were about the same size as Buick of any given year back then. MAny of their '10 to '13 models had ten spoke front wheels (a GM thing). Cadillac used ten spoke front wheels on many models around 1910, and Cartercar was acquired by General Motors after Carter's untimely death. The shifting lever looked similat to what this car has. I did not on my quick look find a picture of a really close body style however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 6:22 AM, AHa said: Very unusual windshield on this car. There appears to be a long rod outside the car where the shifter should be and I don't see a hand brake. Is this a friction car? There is a friction car, whose name escapes me at the moment, that is a large HP car. Windshield frames don't help much on cars of this age. Many if not most were accessories and could have been installed either by the selling dealer or an independent top and windshield shop. Very few cars had a standard , factory installed windshield in the 1908 - 1910 era . A few makes listed them as factory options but even then the purchaser often had the choice of a number of different makes of windshields. Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) It was the Cartercar I was thinking of. They are rated at 40hp. That long stick either indicates friction drive or progressive transmission but there is no handbrake visible so I say friction drive. After looking at the picture again I believe this is a Cartercar. When the shift lever is in the neutral position it locks the car in position, effectually locking the brakes. It is setting on a hill with the lever pushed full forward to the locked position. The windshield, which at first glance is curved to match the flat dash is likely positioned behind the dash and is straight on the bottom. As Staver pointed out, most cars didn't come with windshields in this era because most roads were too poor quality to go very fast but as roads improved, windshields were added. There was a Cartercar similar to this for sale at Chickashea back around 1999. Edited August 19, 2019 by AHa (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 No back doors so this is a large Surrey body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varun Coutinho Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1910 Inter-State 40Hp Model 33 Double Rumble Roadster Wheelbase : 118 inches Manufacturer : 1909 - 1914 Inter-State Automobile Co. 1914 - 1918 Inter-State Motor Co. - Munice, Indiana. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modela28 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Is that the gas tank behind the front seat? If so, I've never seen another car with that fuel tank location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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