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Are There Any Guides To Purchasing Riviera Late Models?

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3 hours ago, Pat Curran said:

Why did they use pot metal for this part?

 

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Incipient GM cheapness?

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In other news, I built a visualization of the eighth generation colors, using scans of the PPG chips. I haven't attempted to adjust the darker colors, so some of them are really dark. Titanium Blue is in italics because there doesn't seem to be any certainty that any Riviera actually shipped with it.

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The pearl paints were extra cost.  Mine was Santa Fe red and the pearl paint jobs had no orange peel in them.  It held up really well.

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So much helpful information in this thread—thanks, folks!

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6 hours ago, J3Studio said:

 

Incipient GM cheapness?

 

Agreed about the cheapness! I have noticed other things, even just from the '95 to the '99 Riviera models, that were done cheaper as the years progressed.

 

 

I’ll add one more observation about the steering wheel wobble …

 

I know there is no way to tell how a car had been cared for when buying used. But, from what I’ve seen of the cars with a broken fitting, the “bumper,” circled in the picture below, was pretty much crushed, and the cars with the fitting not broken, it wasn’t crushed. My guess is that if the owner took care to NOT just release the tilt lever and let the steering wheel “slam” up, the fitting lasts longer?

 

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Obviously, I can’t say that is the case for certain, just stating what I have observed over the years.

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8 hours ago, Rivman said:

 

They must have wanted a bit more "horn" than the factory installed …

 

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No four-note horn option available after about 1988 … :)

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8 hours ago, J3Studio said:

 

It does look pretty good to me. However, there are a couple of oddities in their CARFAX history? They definitely list every item ever looked at on the car, that’s for sure.

 

Interior trim check in 2002 and 2003? The clips on the back of the seats are known issues, maybe that was the problem? Inspected after an accident or other incident, damage to right rear in 2003? Windshield replaced, and A/C recharged in 2011? Front struts, thermostat, and radiator hose replaced in 2011 at 25K miles, that seems a bit early?

 

The seller kind of misrepresents it a little in his description … “This vehicle is factory original and has never been in any accidents” and “All the glass on the vehicle is original and stamped.” These comments just differ from the CARFAX report? Can’t really see any paint mismatch from the pictures so hard to say what was damaged on the right rear?

 

NADA puts the value at $3,800, and KBB puts it a bit lower at $3,100. I might go above those values, but I am not in the market either!

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I greatly appreciate all the advice and context @Rivman

 

I'm watching this one closely.

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Just be aware that 1997 Riviera suspension is a "one-year-only" design.

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24 minutes ago, DShip said:

Just be aware that 1997 Riviera suspension is a "one-year-only" design.

 

Yep, already mentioned that on page 1 of the thread.

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On ‎7‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 7:14 PM, DShip said:

Just be aware that 1997 Riviera suspension is a "one-year-only" design.

 

I had forgotten I did this suspension picture until Mike asked me a question about it.

 

This crash manual page shows the different suspension parts from the ’95 thru the ’99 production years.

 

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The struts, springs, and lower control arms are the one year only items. It looks like the ’97 used “some” of the same suspension components as the ’95 & ’96, and it used other suspension components from the ’98 & ’99.

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I was unaware that the supercharged engine was standard in 1998 and 1999...... does anyone know how many or what percentage of the earlier cars were supercharged?

From the BCA Roster,  they list the following number built for each year (are their numbers correct)

1995 = 41322

1996 = 18036

1997 = 18827

1998 = 10953

1999 = 2154

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21 minutes ago, Barney Eaton said:

I was unaware that the supercharged engine was standard in 1998 and 1999...... does anyone know how many or what percentage of the earlier cars were supercharged?

From the BCA Roster,  they list the following number built for each year (are their numbers correct)

1995 = 41322

1996 = 18036

1997 = 18827

1998 = 10953

1999 = 2154

 

Sorry, I can't say what the percentage of supercharged Rivs is.

 

According to the Silver Arrow brochure, printed by the Buick Motor Division, the numbers are as follows …

 

1995 - 41,422

1996 - 18,036

1997 - 18,827

1998 - 10,953

1999 - 1,956

 

The 1,956 in 1999 included the 200 Silver Arrows produced.

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A question for the folks who've seen this all before: how unusual is an eighth generation Riviera as nice as this particular one, currently sitting at $4,150 with a little over a day left?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Buick-Riviera-Supercharged-29-000-miles/303227687792

 

In other words, am I likely to see one that meets my picky specs fairly often, or is this one unusual, despite it showing up only a couple of weeks after I entered the market?

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With only 29,000 miles, not too often.  Other wise I see 100K cars in the $1500 - $3000 quite often. Then there are the dreamers who are asking a small fortune for a run of the mill car.

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6 hours ago, RivNut said:

With only 29,000 miles, not too often.  Other wise I see 100K cars in the $1500 - $3000 quite often. Then there are the dreamers who are asking a small fortune for a run of the mill car.

 

Thanks. I have bid—we'll see how it goes.

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10 hours ago, J3Studio said:

 

Thanks. I have bid—we'll see how it goes.

I hope you get it, John!

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20 hours ago, J3Studio said:

A question for the folks who've seen this all before: how unusual is an eighth generation Riviera as nice as this particular one, currently sitting at $4,150 with a little over a day left?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Buick-Riviera-Supercharged-29-000-miles/303227687792

 

In other words, am I likely to see one that meets my picky specs fairly often, or is this one unusual, despite it showing up only a couple of weeks after I entered tThis he market?

 

I was going to leave this alone and let others have some input, but ...

 

I would say this one is pretty rare as far as the miles. I have a '95 @ 60K and a '99 @ 76K, so there are some out there under your 100K limit, but locating them would/could be the problem. Then to find a low mile one in great condition that is one of the colors you desire would make it even more difficult.

 

I will say this one is getting pretty close to "everything it is worth", it just depends now on how much YOU want it?

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10 hours ago, J3Studio said:

 

Thanks. I have bid—we'll see how it goes.

 

16 minutes ago, NC1968Riviera said:

I hope you get it, John!

 

Yes, as Mike says, Hope you get it.

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It is a nice looking car and it is clean.  This shade of blue is not seen that often but it is a nice combo with the taupe interior.  The Prestige Package came with a contrasting pin stripe as standard equipment however, the pin stripe could be deleted if desired.  It looks like this car had it deleted which probably makes it somewhat rare.  Not sure about those red horns under the hood but it must provide the car with vintage "4 note" sound.  The cornering light lenses look really good as well.  They yellowed from the inside early on and NOS ones don't exist.  It's hard to find a last generation Riviera with clear cornering light lenses.  

Keep us posted.  I hope you get it!

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