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Florida real-estate is very strong right now........lots of flight out of all the over taxed blue states. Interestingly, the newcomers are getting into politics down here, screwing up things like they did up north. The large retired population keeps pushing back hard.........only time will tell.

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5 hours ago, edinmass said:

Florida real-estate is very strong right now........lots of flight out of all the over taxed blue states. Interestingly, the newcomers are getting into politics down here, screwing up things like they did up north. The large retired population keeps pushing back hard.........only time will tell.

 

Yes Ed you are correct again.  The "subdivision" we have built in has a mailing address of Delray Beach and is sold out but there are many private owned spec houses built and we have been told are selling quickly. Is there an AACA Region up your way or is Miami a better option?

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THREE HUNDRED FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED NINETY TWO DOLLARS!!! 

Dyna's reaction to a 40 acre plot with buildings says it all about central Florida land prices. What would it be near LA or Vancouver ? Zillow has my house over $300 large and is in an Orange County (not Orlando) development & configured as 2 bedroom (could be 3)/2 1/2 bath.

 

ps see here.

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5 hours ago, padgett said:

Dyna's reaction to a 40 acre plot with buildings says it all about central Florida land prices. What would it be near LA or Vancouver ? Zillow has my house over $300 large and is in an Orange County (not Orlando) development & configured as 2 bedroom (could be 3)/2 1/2 bath.

 

ps see here.

Real Estate guy just priced my house as $179-184K.  That, with a six car garage and a carport, 3 bedrooms, office, living room, dining room, family room kitchen, 2 baths, spa room with jacuzzi and walled lanai, two A/Cs and a whole house generator.  Real people can't live in Orlando, Orange Co. Lee County or virtually anyplace north of  here.  Miami has the best AACA Region.  Coast places have home insurance so high only rich people can afford....like $5,000+ per year.  To afford to live here you have to have been here quite awhile, like 20 years or more.

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Suspect most of the money for the Clermont property is the 40 acres.

Also a quick check of the property tax for 2018 was $3080

My property tax and insurance cost are about $2500 each

 

If you really want to find a car property close to Orlando, I would suggest Clermont or the west side in general. East side is overbuilt wetlands IMNSHO.

OTOH Lake Sebring & connected lakes (Florida has A Lot of lakes) is great for recreation & area (Sebring, Lake Wales, Avon Park) has everything you need and are other roads besides 27 (64, 66, 98). That does sound like a good deal.

ps if you do not care for flatlands I'd suggest studying the Lake Wales Ridge. Come the Apocalypse it will probably still be above water.

 

And then there is Ocean Ridge - an oceanfront trailer park.

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On 6/23/2019 at 10:27 AM, Harold said:

Beware of communities with a Homeowners' Association (HOA).  Some of the fine-print in their by-laws is very anti-car!

 

Based on many of the HOA horror stories I've read they seem to be anti EVERYTHING......... 🤬

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4 hours ago, cahartley said:

 

Based on many of the HOA horror stories I've read they seem to be anti EVERYTHING......... 🤬

A homeowners association and to a much greater extent a condominium association should be looked at as a business partner relationship.  You are one person in a committee of dozens to hundreds of individuals that do not have a common motive, similar thought process or in many cases have no experience with real estate management, all trying to manage commonly owned property that impacts that portion of private property that you own.  Would you go into business with a hundred strangers?  I'm still trying to figure out if anyone but an attorney makes money off these deals.

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We have one, but you don't have to join (I haven't), they are basically inactive except for a Wednesday Bingo day at the building.  I think they have a pancake breakfast once a month.  There is a beach lot at the lake with a picnic area, but nobody uses it.  Best kind of HOA a community can have. 🙂

In 18 years here I've belonged one year....nothing happened all year so I didn't rejoin.

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It all depends on who they are. I pay $150/year for mine and they take care that things stay clean. They have done some things I do not like (speed humps), was on the board once, and used to manage the web site but for the most part they confine themselves to telling people they need the grass cut or house painted & having periodic community garage sales. For my part I keep what is visible from the street (and the backyard even though fenced) neat and clean. Only "anti-car" are no cars are to be parked on the lawn and no boats or trailers (or trash cans) may be visible from the street. Covenants (rules) are published and on the web site. They have had little change since the development was started. Must admit that having paved streets and sidewalks for strolls is nice.

 

My HOA has fought the county a couple of times about things that would have been useless but expensive and maintain the entrances. The worst ones are the gated communities but those are mostly for 55+ or "rich and famous".

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My experience with the HOA where I have a home in Ocala is similar to Mr P, I have no complaints, they keep it nice and get after those who don't. We have 2 1/2 acre zoning there is no need to be looking at somebody's POS RV sitting on the front lawn, everyone there has enough property to keep it out of sight. The HOA serves a purpose. I have a 9 room ranch with a 2 car garage, a 2 1/2 car detached garage, and a 60 X 40 with a lift, only once they contacted me if I could fix a few fence boards that popped. That's good. it just takes one homeowner that does not care to hurt the value of your home. 

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I once owned a condo that had a HOA board run by 12 Marine Drill Sargents.........they were crazy tough. BUT....everyone was informed well before the purchase went through. Buildings were maintained as new. After twenty years of ownership I listed the unit for sale at a 10 percent too high of asking price according to the realtor.........sold the place in less than an hour. HOA are not always bad, its just people who don't do due diligence to understand the rules.I rather have a hyper active board, over one that doesn't enforce the rules. 

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Funny how car people particularly GM car people tend to have the same cars: Corvairs, Vega/Astre/Monza/Sunbirds, Fieros, Reattas/Allantes, and now CTSs (bothers some that I call mine a "Catera Touring Sedan Coupe".). 2 1/2 acres sounds wonderfull, I  cram all my stuff in .29 acres but the prolific Florida vegetation helps to both hide stuff and protect from storms..

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On 6/26/2019 at 1:31 PM, Dynaflash8 said:

Real Estate guy just priced my house as $179-184K.  That, with a six car garage and a carport, 3 bedrooms, office, living room, dining room, family room kitchen, 2 baths, spa room with jacuzzi and walled lanai, two A/Cs and a whole house generator.  Real people can't live in Orlando, Orange Co. Lee County or virtually anyplace north of  here.  Miami has the best AACA Region.  Coast places have home insurance so high only rich people can afford....like $5,000+ per year.  To afford to live here you have to have been here quite awhile, like 20 years or more.

 

Your place would be an easy 700k where I live.

Even more if it is in a very desirable area.

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Your place would be an easy 700k where I live.

Even more if it is in a very desirable area.

Well..................don't I wish.  Sebring has always been a place where old people come from up north in areas like where you live so they can live off of Social Security.  I guess it is what it is.  I thought if I held onto my '39 Buick convertible sedan long enough I could maximize what it was worth........and apparently I held onto it too long.  So, my parents had a house in Winter Park, FL they bought in 1960 for $60,000 and they sold it 33 years later for $75,000.  A few years later the house was torn down and a $750,000 house built on the postage stamp size lot.  It's the story of Florida, but the gravy train hasn't reached Sebring yet.  I improved my house way over the surrounding neighborhood.  I put a $105,000 addition on my house in 2007, but none of the neighbors did.  My

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Calif is crazy expensive anywhere in So Cal or the Bay Area.

You have to get out in the middle of nowhere and even then it's expensive.

 

I have a 5 year plan to get my things in order, maybe thin the herd a little and then move to a state where it's actually reasonable to live.

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20 hours ago, padgett said:

Funny how car people particularly GM car people tend to have the same cars: Corvairs, Vega/Astre/Monza/Sunbirds, Fieros, Reattas/Allantes, and now CTSs (bothers some that I call mine a "Catera Touring Sedan Coupe".). 2 1/2 acres sounds wonderfull, I  cram all my stuff in .29 acres but the prolific Florida vegetation helps to both hide stuff and protect from storms..

 

Not really, I never owned a Corvair, the only reason I own the Vega is because it is Cosworth, the only reason I have the Monza is because it is a Mirage. otherwise I would never consider an "H" body. I have always bought my wife a new car every 4-6 years, this time she picked the CTS.. I call mine a small P.O.S., hard to get in and out of.

Yes the 2 1/2 acres is nice,  I grew up in the Bronx and lived in the NYC suburbs in the land of 50 X 100's 

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Have always liked small cars. Had several Vega GTs and an Astre wagon for DDs. My Sunbird was also  a V8/4speed/posi. Looked at a Monza but liked the Snowflake wheels better.

 

Biggest problem with the CTS  is all the bling and pseudo track stuff (Crossfire Coupe will run rings around it). Have also had several Camaros and Firebirds and Corvettes but outgrew (literally) them so CTS is the only coupe in the GM lineup. Also has a full set of gauges and a DOHC-6. And a roof vent (nice for parking in Florida) that doesn't open fully. Premium package has lotsa toys and have added full Android Auto to the touchscream. So am restructuring it to be a two place long distance road car. Am pretty close. Do think Cad is trying to fill Pontiac's shoes. Have added Velcro to important buttons so can find without looking.

 

Am a Floridian. Other state I like is Texas home of Jackalopes and giant armadillos that knock over beer trucks. Grew up in south east ("Gold") coast and moved to Orlando because in center of state (no salt), protected from violent weather (hurricanes do not like to be over land), has a world class airport (needed for job), and cheap to live. Today Dyna's place would be great just most friends are in Orlando and Daytona area.

 

Yes most "thickly settled" places have traffic issues but there are also miles and miles of miles and miles (Florida is second largest beef producing state) here & since I can chose when to go places, 100 miles is about an hour and a half and 50 miles is "around the corner". Yes we have densely populated places primarily because there are few through east-west roads, population with one exception is mainly near the coasts (I avoid I-4 between Lakeland and Sanford (AutoTrain terminus) if at all possible. (Lanes keep changing and lane markings disappear when wet.)) (Is nesting of parens legal ? It is in programming.)

 

Strange thing is the I-4 traffic going south/west usually are moving while north/east is constantly clogged. I keep wondering when Tampa is going to run out of cars.

 

 

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Better get started Chicago Car Guy.  I've been looking around Lake City (north Florida) on line.  Houses up there are selling like hotcakes.  I'd be going to look, but I'm sort of stuck.  Tomorrow I go into the hospital for an aortic valve replacement surgery to my heart on Wednesday.  Yuck, two days of tests first.

 

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Zillow is your friend. Can be very specific about what you want. If serious about "10 miles from Orlando" then Orange, Lake, Osceola, & Seminole, and maybe Polk counties. Clermont is zip 34711-34715. Best is to visit and see what is here to help decide what you want. CR455 is a fun road. Is something car related every week (though are some cars that can't get wet).

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7 hours ago, Dynaflash8 said:

 Tomorrow I go into the hospital for an aortic valve replacement surgery to my heart on Wednesday.  Yuck, two days of tests first.

 

Dynaflash8

 

Earl,

 

Wishing you the best for your surgery, and a prayer for the skill of your surgeon.

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+1 on best wishes. At least things like that are done often now.

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12 hours ago, Dynaflash8 said:

Tomorrow I go into the hospital for an aortic valve replacement surgery to my heart on Wednesday.  Yuck, two days of tests first.

 

Dynaflash8

 

Best of luck on your procedure!......... 😉

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On 6/27/2019 at 3:58 AM, kgreen said:

A homeowners association and to a much greater extent a condominium association should be looked at as a business partner relationship.  You are one person in a committee of dozens to hundreds of individuals that do not have a common motive, similar thought process or in many cases have no experience with real estate management, all trying to manage commonly owned property that impacts that portion of private property that you own.  Would you go into business with a hundred strangers?  I'm still trying to figure out if anyone but an attorney makes money off these deals.

Where I used to live the CC&R's gave the HOA board members a "in good faith clause" Stated something like, if you acted in good faith, you are covered from any legal issues that could come up. I wonder if a clause like that has ever been tested? Say there was a few meetings where information exposing some shady stuff was shared with committee and board members. And say that information pulled a David Copperfield and disappeared. In a court of law, would that fall under the good faith clause, if legal issues came up? 

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On 6/26/2019 at 8:08 AM, padgett said:

hard to shake sand

eh? Shake sand and it liquefies, if it is a young formation and has a high water table. Buildings sink, breakup, fall over, etc. Ask the www about liquefaction.

 

Not many EQs in Florida because it is a long way from tectonic plate boundaries.

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