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The Franklin Trec attendees would be your best bet. Attending the meet would probably give you several options. Not everyone who has cars available are on line. Franklin guys tend to be a different type of owner and collector. You need to get inside the circle.

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I am hoping to get word out to someone who might be attending to see if anyone is thinking of selling. Attending the trek is impossible for me as I take care of rescue diabetic and blind dogs. It is way too difficult traveling with them that distance from TX.  So anyone who might be reading this and going please keep me in mind if you hear some chatter of a car coming up for sale :)

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Have you actually looked at, sat in, and driven any Franklins yet ? It really should be a true LOVE experience. In that travel opportunities are limited due to your highly commendable love for our superior best friends, have you been able to accumulate any hands-on local experience with any late '20s - early'30s cars ? If so, which ones ? 

 

Sandy and I fell in love with a big beautiful 1916 Cadillac 7 passenger touring back in 1986 at a world's fair in Vancouver, B.C. I HAD to get one. Searching led quickly to a 1918 about 150 miles from home. It totally impressed me in the way it drove and handled. It needed a tremendous amount of work due to damage from a leaking roof on the garage which had imprisoned it for a few decades. But it was low mileage, and ran very well. No, I wasn't impressed with the harmonic vibration of the old single plane crankshaft V8. Neither totally thrilled with the 2 wheel brakes. I was convinced to make a very fair offer by the tight, strong, solid feel of the mechanical condition. Seller declined my generosity. I guess I am glad he did, as ultimately I found the perfect car for me. It took 3 more years, and cost me 3 times that offer, and I looked at and drove 3 more cars to get that one special car. In that search, I came to re-assess and refine my needs. In the end, only a '24 or '25 with a 2 plane crankshaft inherently balanced V8 with 4 wheel brakes would do for me. I bought the 2nd '24 Cad I drove, and brought it back to Seattle from Eastern Ohio. It would have cost me almost 10 times my offer on the '18 to have got that car to the condition mine is in. My search might have taken me 30 years. I have not seen such a good deal from my standpoint, in the 30 years since I bought mine. I got VERY lucky. However, my next '20s Cadillac, my 1927, took me 20 years to find. I realized early on, that only UNRESTORED original cars in exceptional condition would do. That GREATLY limited the field, and is why it took so long.

 

I know that you are somewhat new here. You may not know my oldies. I apologize to those who have seen too many pictures of these jalopies, but I know for sure that if this is your first introduction you will not be bored or put off.  Unfortunately, the '24 7 passenger touring did suffer a repaint over 50 years ago. Fortunately, it was done in original colors. I did mess up the wheels, since, being painted over, there was nothing original to preserve anymore. I had to get a pinstriper to renew the stripes on the '27. They had been brutally buffed into oblivion, leaving naught but a few remnants. This allowed us accurately re-create them.

 

You have expressed some concerns regarding working on such old machinery. From your inherent mechanical aptitude, and all the successful experience you have in somewhat more modern cars, you will have no problems whatsoever. Particularly with all your friends here who have personal expertise in what you end up with, you will catch on quickly.

 

                                                        Have no fear, Brooklyn Beer !!    -   Cadillac Carl 

 

 

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On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 5:35 PM, Brooklyn Beer said:

I am hoping to get word out to someone who might be attending to see if anyone is thinking of selling. Attending the trek is impossible for me as I take care of rescue diabetic and blind dogs. It is way too difficult traveling with them that distance from TX.  So anyone who might be reading this and going please keep me in mind if you hear some chatter of a car coming up for sale :)

 

As Ed said, you need to get inside the circle.  The Franklin Club is a pretty tight-knit group. Part Clan and part Club. And, you don't need to travel to find a Franklin, you just need to know how best to reach out to the most Club members. And finding someone to find someone at the Trek isn't the best way.

 

There are Franklins out there that can be for sale. However, only about 1/10th of the members post to this site. Many older members, who are more likely to be thinking about selling their car, are less likely to be online. Some of my customers even refuse to own a computer. But, the Franklin Club publications reach all the membership.

 

Many Franklinites want their car to stay within the Club, so they only look to sell through the Club, such as the Franklin Club's  website, the "Service Station" bulletin, and notes/pictures posted up on the bulletin board at the Trek.

 

Some members don't want to run ads and go through all the hassle of dealing with tire-kickers. But if they see someone is genuinely interested in buying,  they will  contact them to sell a car.

 

Contact the webmaster to keep a current notice of what your looking for on the Club's website opening page and in the wanted section. The last one I recommending doing that was contacted by a member  and  got a Franklin he wanted just a few months later.  Put a want ad in the Franklin Service Station. It's mailed to all the members, not just whatever percentage is online.

 

Paul

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Will do.  I just contacted both the webmaster and the Service Station.  I started going back into the old editions and it seemed that in the previous years many Franklins fitting my want have popped up. Starting out with the right car is very important to me as it will be a learning experience.   Thanks for everyone's help !

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Brooklyn Beer,

 

Talk/email/phone Franklin Club members about wanting to buy a Franklin. Let everyone know. Be as specific as you can.

 

I bought my 1921 9B touring from a Franklin club member through the HCCA website. His knees couldn't take using the brakes anymore, so he upgraded to a 1928 7-passenger with hydraulics.

 

About 5 years ago I called the Franklin Club webmaster to post a want ad for a 1929 Franklin sedan. The webmaster said he just took an ad that morning from someone wanting to sell a '29 135 sedan. I ended up buying the car before either ad posted. The sedan had a long history of Franklin club ownership and several good Franklin mechanics had worked on the it. The Franklin was in Fort Worth.

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Will do.  What are the odds another Franklin is 26 miles from my house in fort worth ?  ha

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In the service station bulletin there is a 1930 series 145 Delux sedan posted for sale by club member Jan Grogan in Wyckoff, NJ.  Does anyone know anything about this car?  Fully restored, new engine..

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On 6/7/2019 at 6:32 PM, Brooklyn Beer said:

 I started going back into the old editions and it seemed that in the previous years many Franklins fitting my want have popped up. 

 

Brooklyn, don't hesitate to use the older ads.

Often, cars don't sell immediately.

 

I once called about a pre-war car for sale by

using a year-old ad in Hemmings Motor News.

That car was still available and the price was

realistic.

 

Perhaps start with ads within the last year and

phone the owners.  Then go back to 2 years old, etc.

Those owners might be very glad to hear from someone!

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