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Body design aside, I think what makes this poor Cadillac look all that much worse is it's tail-dragging stance. If you look at the space between fender bead and the front tire and then compare it to the much diminished clearance over the rear, you'll see an effect that amplifies the weak deck height considerably. When you consider all of the large, heavy and vertical elements of the front end, the rear doesn't just look too low, it looks like it's off of another car all together. That, and it's blood red. There are lots of attractive shades of red, but this one is just wrong. I've seen other cars with dropped deck heights and while it's not a look that I favor, I'll bet that tinkering with the rear height, losing the white walls (probably) and a color change to just about anything else, and you'd see a different car.

 

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On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 6:12 PM, 1950panhead said:

 


I imagine Barfman & Shitz coach work is very desirable.

 

 


It looked strange to me, I wanted the experts to weigh in, thank you.

 

 


If I wanted to convert a 31 Caddy sedan to a roadster who do I call ?
Who can make an exact 31 Caddy roadster body today ?

 

1950 panhead,

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On balance, for a special car, I would heartily recommend him. i'll use him again myself.

My opinion. Ron Hausmann P.E.

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One of the better known body builders of our time was Marcel De Ley. Here is a link to an article about him: https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/06/13/master-metalshaper-marcel-de-ley-dies-at-age-89/

 

Some 1930 and 1931 V16 Cadillac sedans were converted to roadsters or convertible coupes over the years by using the open body from a 1930 V8 car. Due to wheelbase differences, a 1931 V8 open car wouldn't work - a 1930 model donor car was needed.

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I think if the car in the topic had been presented as a Judkins body no one would have given it a second thought.

 

The Bohman and Schwartz story shifts one's thinking to the mid-1930's so, in that vein, it would be a five year old car at the time of conversion. Not a good time, used cars were frowned upon by the manufacturer and seen as competition to new products in a reviving economy. A friend of mine ran a Plymouth/DeSoto dealership at that time. He told me about "the factory man" who ran a circuit to damage trade ins. He used a sledge hammer to smash the radiator and crack the block. That continued until the late '30's. Then it was mostly the work of Alfred P. Sloan and Harley Earle whom campaigned for dealers to develop the used car market as a business component. Thinking about it, a 1930 or '31 would not have had much of a chance unless it was owner commissioned. Sentiment would have driven the rework as the value would be very low. That could be a 1940's or even '50's job. That's 70 years ago and stories get foggy.

I have a 60 degree V12 that is at the bottom of its value. It has a platform chassis and I have been known to cut roofs off cars in the past. I can empathize.

 

This Caddy is not a mainstream car and not that well known. I could see buying it and making up a more convincing Judkins body story. In a summer or two the guy in the fedora would stand back and say "Yes, I can see that telltale body line they used."

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