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Were those the versions that came on the Estate Wagons? What years were they made?

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Thanks a bunch everyone.  I would certainly like to find a pair of 7in.  So 64 Wildcat wheel centers web were a silver color not dark.?  64 Rivieras did not have rally wheels, correct?  Obviously, Riviera or new to me, but I'm figuring it out with help.

 

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Art

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44 minutes ago, awk409ak said:

Thanks a bunch everyone.  I would certainly like to find a pair of 7in.  So 64 Wildcat wheel centers web were a silver color not dark.?  64 Rivieras did not have rally wheels, correct?  Obviously, Riviera or new to me, but I'm figuring it out with help.

 

Thanks,

Art

Correct.  1964 Rivieras came with a basic wheel cover, a spoked wire wheel cover, or a cast aluminum wheel cover.  The basic wheel cover and wire cover were the same as the full sized car's except for the logo in the center cap.  The cast aluminum cover was unique, to the Riviers and to the way it mounted to the wheel.  The Turbinator has great examples of restored cast alumuminum covers.  The only 7 inch wheels I've seen are from the station wagons from the late 70's and early 80's.  They have a different profile and backspacing.  

 

Yes, 64 Wildcats and 65 Rivieras had grey webs.  

 

Check out the cast aluminum covers that Bob "The Turbinator" Burnopp has available.  (attached oicture) Rare and in a lot of people's opinions, better looking than the rally wheel.  Very close to what the same era Corvettes had as their top of the line wheel.

 

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1 hour ago, awk409ak said:

Thanks a bunch everyone.  I would certainly like to find a pair of 7in.  So 64 Wildcat wheel centers web were a silver color not dark.?  64 Rivieras did not have rally wheels, correct?  Obviously, Riviera or new to me, but I'm figuring it out with help.

 

Thanks,

Art

Correct.  1964 Rivieras came with a basic wheel cover, a spoked wire wheel cover, or a cast aluminum wheel cover.  The basic wheel cover and wire cover were the same as the full sized car's except for the logo in the center cap.  The cast aluminum cover was unique, to the Riviers and to the way it mounted to the wheel.  The Turbinator has great examples of restored cast alumuminum covers.  The only 7 inch wheels I've seen are from the station wagons from the late 70's and early 80's.  They have a different profile and backspacing.  

 

Yes, 64 Wildcats and 65 Rivieras had grey webs.  

 

Check out the cast aluminum covers that Bob "The Turbinator" Burnopp has available.  (attached oicture) Rare and in a lot of people's opinions, better looking than the rally wheel.  Very close to what the same era Corvettes had as their top of the line wheel.

 

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1964 Riviera with cast aluminum wheels

 

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1964 Wildcat with 64 only rally wheels

 

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To clarify further, the 64 Rally wheels had a light silver background while the 65 rally wheels had a charcoal gray background. In 66

the background changed to black and stayed black from then on.

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2 minutes ago, Seafoam65 said:

To clarify further, the 64 Rally wheels had a light silver background while the 65 rally wheels had a charcoal gray background. In 66

the background changed to black and stayed black from then on.

Lol....cmon guys! How many times have I posted this info?? The switch to black wheel webs happened when the chrome wheels were redesigned for disc brakes in 67 and1/2...so the `66 to `67 1/2 cars should have dark charcoal webs just like the `65.

Tom

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3 minutes ago, 1965rivgs said:

Lol....cmon guys! How many times have I posted this info?? The switch to black wheel webs happened when the chrome wheels were redesigned for disc brakes in 67 and1/2...so the `66 to `67 1/2 cars should have dark charcoal webs just like the `65.

Tom

Does the change in color coordinate with the code numbers?

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26 minutes ago, RivNut said:

Does the change in color coordinate with the code numbers?

Do the code numbers change with the wheel design from drum to disc brake wheels? I dont reference the code numbers or charts,

Tom

 

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The wheels that I have are coded 802 for the drum brake cars and 853 for the disk brake wheel.

802

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1 hour ago, 1965rivgs said:

Lol....cmon guys! How many times have I posted this info?? The switch to black wheel webs happened when the chrome wheels were redesigned for disc brakes in 67 and1/2...so the `66 to `67 1/2 cars should have dark charcoal webs just like the `65.

Tom

I knew this....my brain must have slipped into neutral....thanks for the correction

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1 minute ago, Seafoam65 said:

I knew this....my brain must have slipped into neutral....thanks for the correction

Mine rarely sees any gear beside neutral..lol,

Tom

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Posted (edited)

There's a lot of knowledge in this thread. Does the 1967 1/2 designation for the design and color switch of the chrome wheels mean that front disc brakes were a late-arriving option in 1967? Or did Buick just not allow ordering of disc brakes with chrome wheels until the redesigned wheels were available?

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30 minutes ago, j3studio said:

There's a lot of knowledge in this thread. Does the 1967 1/2 designation for the design and color switch of the chrome wheels mean that front disc brakes were a late-arriving option in 1967? Or did Buick just not allow ordering of disc brakes with chrome wheels until the redesigned wheels were available?

The latter

Tom Mooney

 

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On 4/30/2019 at 12:49 AM, KongaMan said:

IMHO, the first step is to make a long, sober assessment as to what you plan to do with the car.  If you buy the "correct" tires, you can have $1500 in a set.  If you only drive a couple hundred miles a year, you could be paying $1 a mile before the tires reach their replace by date.  Maybe that's worth it if you're going for 400 points or the local show circuit or whatever, but if you're just a yobbo like most of us with other obligations, you might find that a $400 set of tires with a 3/4" whitewall is good enough.

 

And whatever you do, if you're restoring the car, buy the tires last.  The clock starts ticking when the tire is made, not when the car starts being driven.

Mr. Konga Man, I’ve been looking at the radial Bias look tires made by American Classic. Right now they have

a  710 R 15 size with 2 3/4” white wall. Diamond Back keeps promising to

come out with a 710 R 15

with a narrow white wall. One friend of mine on the forum claims the radial Bias look doesn’t look like a Bias Tire at all. Have you seen the radial Bias look tires? I’m interested in the authentic look more than competing the car. 

Turbinator

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Diamond Back vulcanizes the size white wall you want to a new radial tire.  Do a search and check out the triple white that MSDWINC (Gord) had made for his black '65.

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Gents, I’ve heard from a reliable source on the forum the radial bias look tires look more like radials than bias tires. Has any one had a chance to look at the radial bias look tires? If so, what do the radial bias look tires look like?

Thank you

Turbinator

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Bob,

 

Here's a picture of American Classic's bias looking radial.

 

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Looks to be the correct size tire (6.70 x 15) and white sidewall (1") for a 63 / 64 Riviera - Sold by Coker

 

SKU 700320
Brand American Classic
Weight (lbs) 28.0000
DOT Approved Yes
Product Size 670R15
Sidewall Style Narrow Whitewall
Width Bias Look Radial 6.70
Radial Aspect Ratio 80
Rim Diameter 15
Tire Construction Bias Look Radial

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Ed, so the 6.70 R 15 radial tire with bias look is equal in tire dimensions as the 710 15 bias tire? I can do my due diligence and research comparison sizes of the tires, but if know off hand.....

Turbinator

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Bias ply tires had one digit in the ones place, a decimal point and one digit each in the tenths and hundreths places.  7.10 x 15 would have been larger the 6.70.  Those sizes were pretty constant up throuh 1964.  Then i 1965, the tire industry came up with new measurements.  6.70 tires are too small for a riviera.  Think 1955 Chevy.

 

So, a 1964 7.60 x 15 is the same as a 1965 8.45 x 15. 

 

Bias looking radial tires are labled like the 64 and earlier years.  225/75R15 is a modern equivalent to the 7.60 x 15.  215/75R15 is the modern equivalent to the 7.10 x15.  Buy your tires based on the width of your rims.  7.10 for 5.5" rims; 7.60 for 6" rims.  Be sure you measure your rims correctly.  The width is measured INSIDE the lip of the rim.

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On 4/30/2019 at 3:28 PM, KongaMan said:

Those tires are all kind of pricey.  You'll be well over $1000 for each of the first three, and $8-900 for the last ones.  Does ¼" of white rubber justify a 100-150% surcharge?  

Mr. Konga Man, there is no arguing over personal taste. I submit why would anyone buy a Gibson guitar when there are so many others better and less expensive? The answer is, a Gibson guitar is what they wanted.

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Turbinator,

You make a great point.  That is exactly why I'm looking at 60R15s or 70R15s redline tires for my yellow 64.

 

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You got some sneaky guys out there that will do stuff like this.

 

Wheelcovers. But you could buy a new set of 5 on 5, 8" wagon wheels and even baffle the big kids.

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On 4/30/2019 at 7:22 PM, Seafoam65 said:

Jim, the tires you listed are too large in diameter. The 820 r 15 is 29.6 inches in diameter....way too large! The tire that is best from Coker

for the 63 Riviera would be their American Classic bias ply look radial in 710-15. It is exactly the correct size and has a correct one inch whitewall.

Winston, unless the 7.10

R 15  American Classic radial Bias look with 1” white walls just came out In the past week or two I’m all ears. I have not been able to find the 7.10 R 15 with the 1”

ww in the Radial Bias look Tire. I’m really happy to be wrong

On 5/1/2019 at 1:33 PM, RivNut said:

7.10 and 7.60 are BOTH correct fo a 63 / 64 Riviera.  The 7.10 was standards and the 7.60 was optional.  In '65, the only tire available was the 8.45, BUT that was only a change in designation. The 8.45 for 1965 had the exact same dimensions as the 7.60 for 1963//1964. The 215/75R15 is the best replacement for the 7.10; and the 225/75R15 is the best replacement for the 7.60 (8.45.)

7.10 tires came on 5.5 inch wide rims; 7.60 tires came on 6 inch wide rims.  So check your rim width before buying tires.

Thanks again

Turbinator

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7 hours ago, awk409ak said:

Turbinator,

You make a great point.  That is exactly why I'm looking at 60R15s or 70R15s redline tires for my yellow 64.

 

Art

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Art, a man/woman’s automobile is their chariot. Outfitting the car like you like is one of life’s pleasure. I try to practice good manners and never be negative to a car owner about his vehicle. If I see something that could cause injury to the driver and others I’ll gently ask permission to tell the owner what I see. It’s not what you say, it is how you say it. Life is too short to find faults in others cars unless they ask for assistance.

put on your red stripes and let the good times roll!

Turbinator

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33 minutes ago, Turbinator said:

Winston, unless the 7.10

R 15  American Classic radial Bias look with 1” white walls just came out In the past week or two I’m all ears. I have not been able to find the 7.10 R 15 with the 1”

ww in the Radial Bias look Tire. I’m really happy to be wrong

Thanks again

Turbinator

Turb,

 

On the first page of this this thread, in post 12 (you'll have to count) Jim Cannon posted a link to the American Classic 7.10 x 15 bias looking radial.

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