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I found the entire auction very interesting, the beauty of no-reserve and the fact the museum is not a BJ  type company trying to wring every last buck out of the event, made for some good buys. The scarcity and story behind the Tucker obviously drives it's price ($1.8M) for what I have always seen as an otherwise ugly and ill-conceived project. While I have always admired Tucker's drive and intentions, the product was never going to succeed, too many untested mechanicals and a lumpy body (JMHO). The yellow '31 Cord convertible coupe at $110,000 seemed low to me, I did not watch that particular sale, was there something unusually negative about that car? Finally the Owen Magnetic rusty chassis went for big money. Whats the value there? 

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My opinion is that Tuckers were interesting cars, and had virtually no following until the movie was made.  Yes, it's an interesting story, but seven figures interesting?  I think not, but there apparently are deep pockets who think so,

 

Don't get me wrong, fascinating car, but think of all the incredible cars one could buy for 1.8 million......and seriously, this car would not be in the mix.

 

The Nash is a great car, colors atrocious to me, but then again a repaint might add 50K to value.  

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Someone needs to make a movie about something I own.   I don’t get the tucker thing at all.  But you see a 50/50 split. Half the guys love them and half the guys hate them.

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3 hours ago, trimacar said:

My opinion is that Tuckers were interesting cars, and had virtually no following until the movie was made.  Yes, it's an interesting story, but seven figures interesting?  I think not, but there apparently are deep pockets who think so,

 

Don't get me wrong, fascinating car, but think of all the incredible cars one could buy for 1.8 million......and seriously, this car would not be in the mix.

 

I agree that seven figures interesting is odd for a Tucker. At the same time, it's hard to find an American car that is (a) truly distinctive both mechanically and cosmetically, (b) well known to most people in the hobby, and (c) made in such low numbers that most people never see one.

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Just now, 1935Packard said:

 

I agree that seven figures interesting is odd for a Tucker. At the same time, it's hard to find an American car that is (a) truly distinctive both mechanically and cosmetically, (b) well known to most people in the hobby, and (c) made in such low numbers that most people never see one.

That would be any race car Harry Miller built. Bob 

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2 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

That would be any race car Harry Miller built. Bob 

 

I had to google "harry miller race car" to find out who Harry Miller was, so I'm not sure he satisfies (b).   But I also don't know how much Harry Miller race cars sell for.  :)

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42 minutes ago, alsancle said:

Someone needs to make a movie about something I own.   I don’t get the tucker thing at all.  But you see a 50/50 split. Half the guys love them and half the guys hate them.

If we have $1.8 MILLION to start with, first we build a barn, climate controlled, totally fitted, then we go shopping with what is left. Bob 

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9 hours ago, alsancle said:

Someone needs to make a movie about something I own.   I don’t get the tucker thing at all.  But you see a 50/50 split. Half the guys love them and half the guys hate them.

There's an Avanti that's been sitting in a local building for something like 35 years.  I asked the owner a number of years ago if he would sell it, and the answer was "No, I'm waiting for them to make a movie about the Avanti, like they did the Tucker, then it'll be worth a lot more...."

 

 

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image.png.d177d46d82f329fa236bb59f3de9f396.png             DID THEY PAINT THAT WITH LIPSTICK?????????????????????????

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1 hour ago, trimacar said:

There's an Avanti that's been sitting in a local building for something like 35 years.  I asked the owner a number of years ago if he would sell it, and the answer was "No, I'm waiting for them to make a movie about the Avanti, like they did the Tucker, then it'll be worth a lot more...."

 

A movie about Raymond Loewy could be spectacular—but you'd definitely need the right actor. One wonders whether the Loewy coupe or the Avanti be the star car.

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In the era of this Nash, buyers with the dough could order their car in virtually any color combination they liked, perhaps even this one. They were not concerned with whether Joe or Bill or Mary liked it, they bought what they liked, unique, unusual, garish or not. They also only likely kept them for 2-3 years. I can easily imagine some tycoon buying this for his wife. In our current old car market, the same rules apply. A buyer is entitled to like what ever his/her money can buy. While this scheme is not to my personal taste, my wife would love it. I don't think we should be publicly criticizing it as I expect the new owner loves it and all the more power to them. A superb Car. 

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11 hours ago, alsancle said:

Someone needs to make a movie about something I own.   I don’t get the tucker thing at all.  But you see a 50/50 split. Half the guys love them and half the guys hate them.

They weren't a safe water park ride either.

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It was reported by people at the auction the Model J was sold to Europe. 

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2 hours ago, edinmass said:

It was reported by people at the auction the Model J was sold to Europe. 

 

That was a deal.   The hard part now is getting someone to work on it.

 

It will be interesting to compare the Nash to the Guyton car coming up at RM.  They are identical,  except the latter has a high dollar restoration  in a better color.

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It's hard enough to work on a Model J here in the states.........its going to be a real challenge to get that car back togeather overseas. I think the made a good buy.....IF the have the time and resources to get it done correctly. It will be interesting to see if the engine is a runner......or a money pit.

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, 1935Packard said:

 

I had to google "harry miller race car" to find out who Harry Miller was, so I'm not sure he satisfies (b).   But I also don't know how much Harry Miller race cars sell for.  :)

 

Anything Harry Miller connected generally sells for a lot. Very limited output, very strong demand. An American master!

 

Greg in Canada

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On 4/29/2019 at 8:32 AM, Gunsmoke said:

In the era of this Nash, buyers with the dough could order their car in virtually any color combination they liked, perhaps even this one. They were not concerned with whether Joe or Bill or Mary liked it

 

That is usually the justification for painting a 32 Packard with 1970 Mustang Grabber Orange.  For 99% of the buyers not standing out was more important.  By 1932 the depression was taking a strong hold and the last thing you wanted to do was flaunt wealth in the wrong end of town.

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For 99% of the buyers not standing out was more important.

 

Hence the reason Ford sold a few towncars.

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Hemmings seems fixated on the odd ducks.   I want to reiterate the J was a deal.

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29 minutes ago, alsancle said:

Hemmings seems fixated on the odd ducks.   I want to reiterate the J was a deal.

 

I think it was just about right.........the engine timer was missing, and a new reproduction will run you 15 grand.......plus gaskets. Only problem is there are about ten items on the car that are missing that will also cost 15k for each issue, before you start the restoration. You can probably come out even money if you are careful with the restoration costs.

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Dave,  could you take a picture of the tach in the Graham?  I have never seen one before.  Thanks.

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The SAXON looks quite nice, I picked up what I think is an early one piece hood for one last weekend. Bob 

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