28 Chrysler Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 The chassis design is a bit different, not quite an underslug. on these two cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Also interesting tandem seating in the first photo! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Sizaire-Naudin, built in France from about 1905. Single-cylinder engines of upto 1,5-litre capacity, racing models had even more. Sorry, not actually tandem-seating in the first photo, taken at the 1906 Coupe des Voiturettes. Instead the ridning mechanic tries to get a better weight distribution. But the voiturette did in fact have only one pedal controlling both the clutch and the transmission brake BTW the second photo is probably taken at Brooklands track in England Please take a look at the British broschure from 1909-1910 http://carcrank.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/SIZAIRE-NAUDIN-Brochure-1910-132.pdf History: https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com/lost_marques_sizaire.htm Edited March 11, 2019 by Casper Friederich More information (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Two different photos, and two different cars. Radiator's top shape is the clearest difference. Both are however Sizaire-Naudin. I do not know, however I believe that the first (upper) photo is the later of the two cars. An interesting bit of history about the Sizaire Naudin is that they were one of the couple entrants into the 1908 New York to Paris race that did not get very far. If I recall correctly, they dropped out after the first or second day. Although their single cylinder and lightweight cars with their unique front suspension were often raced in Europe and performed very well there, they were caught unprepared for America's lack of roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This 1907 Sizaire-Naudin was restored in New Zealand in the 1960s by the late Bob Turnbull, a very talented and only slightly eccentric, engineer who was responsible for much of the early work on the Hamilton jet boats. I remember following it at 55 mph on several occasions as he lived not far from me. I took this photo from the back seat of a 1918 Ford T in 1980 during the Vintage Car Club of New Zealand National Veteran Rally. Bob spent his later years restoring a Type 57 Bugatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 hours ago, Ozstatman said: Also interesting tandem seating in the first photo! Casper, thanks, I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Car # 6 was from 1906, # 15 was 1908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 The Dutch importer van Polanen (sounds almost Finnish!) took part in the 1909 Gothenburg-Stockholm Winter Race, probably to get hold on the Swedish market. The weekly magazine Hvar 8:de Dag http://runeberg.org/hvar8dag/10/0312.html thought that it was a very strange looking machine indeed. Eventhough he won, at least the small capacity class, I doubt any Sizaire-Naudins were ever sold new in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Here is a better look at the Sizaire fron suspension. Photo taken in New Zealand in 2007. Just by coincidence the photo was posted today on a local facebook page. This one is registered as 1907 but appears to have an improved type of spring mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/11/2019 at 9:08 PM, nzcarnerd said: This 1907 Sizaire-Naudin was restored in New Zealand in the 1960s by the late Bob Turnbull, a very talented and only slightly eccentric, engineer who was responsible for much of the early work on the Hamilton jet boats. I remember following it at 55 mph on several occasions as he lived not far from me. I took this photo from the back seat of a 1918 Ford T in 1980 during the Vintage Car Club of New Zealand National Veteran Rally. Bob spent his later years restoring a Type 57 Bugatti. As an addendum to this post I remember Bob telling me that when he began the restoration of the Sizaire he was able to make contact with Maurice Sizaire who designed the car and gain some useful help from him. Maurice died in 1969 at the age of 91. https://translate.google.co.nz/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Sizaire&prev=search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a sell Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 The driver of the second car almost looks like a gal. Thgat would be unusual for the day, and if so you would think there might be some sort of a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 4/14/2019 at 6:24 PM, a sell said: The driver of the second car almost looks like a gal. I doubt it. Beefy wrist and forearm and big feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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