Centurion Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) Mecum's upcoming May, 2019 auction in Indianapolis lists a remarkable array of pre-war Buicks, and I assume that these might all come from the same collection. Every year of Series 90 Limited is represented from 1937 - 1942, and there's a stunning 1942 Roadmaster Sedanette and a 1949 Roadmaster Estate Wagon offered as well. Edited February 27, 2019 by Centurion (see edit history) 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK RACER Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2019/lots/list/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Yes, all from Del DeYoung's collection. I remember seeing the green '42 76-S at the Rochester, Minnesota BCA national meet. Wow, what a collection! Thanks for pointing this out. Pete Phillips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pete Phillips said: Yes, all from Del DeYoung's collection. I remember seeing the green '42 76-S at the Rochester, Minnesota BCA national meet. Wow, what a collection! Thanks for pointing this out. Pete Phillips Pete, I had hoped that someone here would be familiar with this collection or know the seller. that '42 76-S is stunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I think I need to go to Indianapolis and do a magazine issue comparing and contrasting each year of Limiteds! How often do you ever have six different years of them together in the same place?!!! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Pete Phillips said: I think I need to go to Indianapolis and do a magazine issue comparing and contrasting each year of Limiteds! How often do you ever have six different years of them together in the same place?!!! Excellent idea, Pete! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) There are lots of great car collections, but I've never seen anything like this collection. Too bad it needs to be broken up. Keith Edited March 6, 2019 by Buicknutty (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I met with a fellow today who plans to have a Mustang he took in trade for sale there...I don’t see a description nor photos though yet. It looks like it would be fun to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemb Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Oh man, I think I'd have to take the blue '41. Beautiful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allcars Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Wow, what a great bunch of Buicks! Ironically, there is a '42 Century Sedanet going up for auction in Florida this month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Yabadabadoo. I second the vote for Pete going to Indy. Take some BCA Membership forms and give the new owners the PWD info too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I now remember where I've seen these cars. When Bill McLaughlin and I drove our Buicks to the national meet in Rochester, Minnesota in 2006, we were invited by Del to stop in Friesland, Wisconsin to tour his collection even though he would not be home at the time. It was a +90F day and Del's building was so well insulated that it was 60F on the inside. That's the interior of his building in the pics. It sure felt great. Wonderful collection. The attached pic was taken on that trip on that same day we were in Friesland but this dealership is in Fox Lake, Wisconsin, just down the road from Friesland. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUICK RACER Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 The BCA BOD approved Pete's request for expenses so he is going!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbuickgs Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Has anyone contacted Nicola Bulgari ?? Bet he could keep them together at his small shop ( LOL) . Bill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBRMD Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Anybody know how these came out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1937 Limited: $19,800 1938 Limited: $15,400 1939 Limited: $24,200 1940 Limited: $40,150 1941 Limited: $44,000 1942 Limited: $77,000 1942 Roadmaster: $26,400 1949 Roadmaster Wagon: $66,000 The only price on this list that seemed market-correct was the '41 Limited, although I'll admit I was a bidder on the '42 Limited and bailed when it crossed $40. $77,000 is almost shocking, but then again, where will you find another one? The '42 Roadmaster sedanet seems especially cheap (probably the color), as was the '38 Limited. The '40 Limited was a little eyebrow-raising on the high side, but that's a good sign that maybe these big cars are warming up. The wagon might have been a little cheap, too, but I had a blue one that I couldn't give away for $75,000 so might just be the market on high-end woodies these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Jake Moran Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Those are interesting results. I think whoever purchased those 1st 3 Limited ought to be very happy. I think the 42 Limited pricing is the for 2 reasons, as stated already by Matt - rarity and that is a nice color when most of these are black. I have looked for a 42 Limited off and on for 15 years and have only seen 3 for sale in any condition. I personally love that over the top 42 Sedanette but color certainly held it back. I did not think I would have a chance at purchasing any of these or I might have gone and bid on those 1st 3 Limiteds to buy. I just assumed all would go for + $30,000 to $40,000. Pete's write up will be fun to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBRMD Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Wow, the '38 was a complete steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SBRMD said: Wow, the '38 was a complete steal. Not really. Both the '37 and the '38 had completely wrong interiors and they were both in somewhat disappointing condition, compared to the others, which were beautifully restored to near perfection. Poor paint quality; some of the glass was badly discolored; wrong door panel material; dashboards not wood-grained, etc. The buyer will have to spend a boatload of $$$ to bring them up to the condition of the other ones, if that is their goal. Pete Phillips Edited May 20, 2019 by Pete Phillips typo correction (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I thought the '49 model 79 was a steal. $62,000 doesn't approach the cost of restoring one of these, and this car had every nut and bolt and every piece of wood done. The only flaw I saw was an incorrect "Dyna-Flow" ornament on the rear below the tailgate (it had a '50-'52 style one). Only six of these Roadmaster wagons in the entire BCA, and only a few hundred were ever made. There will be an extensive article on these Buicks in a future Bugle magazine, but right now I can't think about it--too swamped getting ready for the national meet. Pete Phillips, BCA #7338 Leonard, TX 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I’m happy I wasn’t there. The Roadmaster Sedanette would have been far too tempting for the price it went for...of course, one never knows how far someone else will go to get it. I like the colour, but that’s always a matter of personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Thriller said: I’m happy I wasn’t there. The Roadmaster Sedanette would have been far too tempting for the price it went for...of course, one never knows how far someone else will go to get it. I like the colour, but that’s always a matter of personal preference. I was there!!...in Indy at least... I really thought about going over there. I wanted the '42 Limited, I would have settled for the sedanette or the '38 of course. I figured any of them would be a several hundred thousand dollar car even at the $26K the sedanette sold for cause I either would to have bought a building or got a divorce so either way it was gonna cost me a lot more than the value of the car...😂 I went over to the Speedway instead and drank beer in the suite for free...all worked out... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/22/2019 at 12:37 PM, Thriller said: I’m happy I wasn’t there. I have to second that, Derek! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJBUICK Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 being new to the pre-war interest and learning as i go after reading the above i understand and see what has been said about most of the cars but am curious why does it seem the 39 was low from the pics it was much nicer than the 37-38 but yet the price doesnt seem to reflect that. i would have expected a higher price any ideas/info appreciated i am actually partial to the color or does that hurt the limited series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Though my Team '39 friends here prefer their '39's, generally through the hobby 37-38 Buicks are considers a high water mark for Buick design. The 40s and 41 are also highly popular in the hobby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) The '39 burned oil and smoked quite a bit, so that was probably the reason for its somewhat lower price. Cosmetically, it was absolutely gorgeous--looked like a total restoration but maybe it had some broken piston rings or they didn't rebore the engine? See it in the first photo, second car from the camera, laying down some "fog". Edited May 30, 2019 by Pete Phillips (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 What was the status of the cars prior to the auction? Were they driven regularly or were they static displays? I am not familiar with the collection from which they came. Perhaps some driving would limber up the '39 and help with the oil burning. Or not. That's the gamble, I suppose. Pete is probably quite correct in saying that suppressed bidding. Buyers are skittish folk even though from this side of the TV screen it seems like they just throw money at anything. A car with issues getting onto the block will be hurt in the bidding, regardless of whether there's an actual problem. It was also nice to see them all lined up together. I did not realize that the Limited was completely redesigned between '37 and '38--I always assumed they were virtually identical. Seeing them side-by-side it's easy to note significant differences. Still hate the skirts on the '37, but I think it's a more imposing car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJBUICK Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 thank you for the info the oil burner makes sense and there always seems to be certain years that do not fair as well in popularity a perfect example that comes to mind is the 70 Riv no where near as popular as the years around it (i happen to like it) my first interest was perked by a 36 special and all the art deco, recently we came pretty close to getting a 37 and then a 38 possibility came our way but as such still waiting for the combination of car, money , space, and time to be correct i am sure it will happen one day but building the knowledge till then thank you for the info, always looking to learn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneryan52 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 That 37 limo has made it's way to Columbus Ohio! I will say that when we arrived to the auction we didn't even know these cars existed, but that lineup was cool as hell and one of them was a limo.. it just had to be The car is not perfect but is shows very well (especially when not sitting next to a completely restored one) It starts every time and cruises down the road nicely! there were a bunch of new parts in the trunk including what appears to be a complete window/door trim kit Can't wait to start tinkering on it and would love to gather from your knowledge base 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJBUICK Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 sounds to me like you are the new owner congrats on a nice purchase hope to meet both you and the car at a future show and from your post count let me be the first to welcome you to the BCA forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Welcome to the forum! In case you weren’t aware, the Buick Club of America National Meet will be in Strongsville, OH in 2020...practically in your back yard. It would be great to see the car there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: I did not realize that the Limited was completely redesigned between '37 and '38--I always assumed they were virtually identical. Seeing them side-by-side it's easy to note significant differences. Still hate the skirts on the '37, but I think it's a more imposing car. actually 38 and 39 are the same body from the cowl back. and for the 80 series the same for 38 through 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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