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Title issues in NJ

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Having a problem with getting a new title for my father's (who passed away) 1963 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE Convertible. It is on a desk at the NJ Motor Vehicle Commission. They said that even though I have the Original Bill of Sales (my father was the original owner) and the "State of New Jersey Division of Motor Vehicles Department of Law and Public Safety Certificate of Ownership of a Motor Vehicle" paper, the serial number and the VIN numbers don't match and I would need an explanation. I have contacted several people and even Mercedes, but I am hitting dead ends every time. The car registration and insurance use the 6 digit serial number as the VIN. Any suggestion or words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance, M

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On the Bill of Sales and Certificate of Ownership there is not a VIN number, but a 6 digit Serial Number on all the documents (begins with 00). There is also a Key Number on the Bill of Sales. The VIN number is etched or stamped above the grill of the car, but it does not seem to correspond with the Serial Number on the paperwork. I really don't understand it and I have not had luck finding anyone yet that does. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Thank you so much for the suggestion and the link. I will take a look. It has been very frustrating .

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Some states used the engine number on the title rather than the serial number; for example Virginia.  However that was a very long time ago, and your car doesn't seem to be old enough...at least for Virginia had it been bought there.  All of these laws are different state to state, or maybe I should say were at one time.  I hope the car was bought new by your father.  It could be as simple as a mistake  years ago but it will be tricky to ever satisfy any state DMV if they are at odds.  I won't buy a car from a state that doesn't have a title myself, for example Connecticut.  Florida, where I live now, is one of the worst to satisfy....or worst where I have lived.....that said, Virginia, Maryland, Florida is a  pretty small sample.  Maryland was terrible too, but Virginia was good to deal with.

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Thank you for the information. I am happy that my dad bought the Mercedes new and he was the only owner. However, It seems that back in 1962 (when the car was bought), NJ must have issued a separate 6 digit serial number to each owner on their Certificate of Ownership. I can't find this number on the car anywhere, yet this number was used with the registration and insurance cards. There might have been some mistake along the way with paperwork? Still hitting one road block after another. Not sure exactly where to go from here, but there has to be an answer somewhere.  

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Is the 6 digit number on the title the same as the last 6 digits on the data plate or the frame.  

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No they are not the same. The 6 digit number used on the Bill of Sales and Certificate of Ownership are the same, but they are not on the vehicle. The car was bought new in 1962 by my father.

 

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Friend of mine had a similar problem when he inherited a car - inpsection highlighted a discrepancy caused by original selling dealer. Had it inspected at DMV who verified ownership since new and original plates, and fixed the paperwork.

Research shows your chassis no should look like   112023-10-00nnnn, Engine no. 189-986-12-nnnnn, where 112023 is the model code, 1890986 is the engine series code. Chassis no stamped on right front frame rail, as well as on radiator support.

 

Note that there were NO VIN before 1980, before that just maker's chassis , engine and sometimes body numbers. 

jp 26 Rover 9.

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