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My own Logan lathe was given to me and was also found in a garage by a friend hired to do a clean up. It was in cleaner shape than yours and has a quick change but runs the exact same drive system with a motor pulley to jackshaft pulley to flat leather belt. I’ve been loving it ever since I got it. Picked a nice Alliant vertical mill with all the essentand a ton of tooling for $1,750 including a 5hp phase converter. They can be found out there for the right kind of money. 

 

In that box along with those feed screw gears are some guards for the belt drives. I see a face plate and other things in that box. It’s a goldmine of parts.

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Congrats on your 'new' lathe!  A lathe is essential for working on vintage cars...and vintage anything!

 

My first lathe (1938 Sheldon 11") looked much worse than yours, so don't fret.   

I just recently started my second lathe (1948 South Bend 9"), but it will be kept as 'original' as possible...just like my cars. 

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That is a great find. I want to warn you, a lathe is possibly the most dangerous piece of equipment in a machine shop. Not trying to scare you, but instead make you aware it is very easy to get injured if inexperienced in operating one. If you choose to restore and use it, I would recommend enrolling in a beginning machinest course at a community college. Not only will you be safer, but will learn to do things on your lathe that would be difficult to discover on you own. I can tell you that lathes are a very neat piece of equipment and are fun to operate.

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What mike said. Also, when running a lathe, no ties, scarfs,  loose shirt cuffs, long hair, gloves and NO rings. I might opine that the piece of equipment in the shop most likely to hurt one is the buffing wheel...............Bob

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I still have a proud scar on my left thumb from a "lathe lesson" learned in Jr. High school metal shop. Agree about the buff'.  -  CC 

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This is my  11" X 36" South Bend lathe...  I am still looking for the correct tailstock for 8" wide V ways and 11" swing.

 

 

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Hey C Carl, we have a "matched set". We were learning to shape copper bowls in H. S. metal shop and with the lathe still spinning after I shut it off, I though I could slow it down with my hand. Well I couldn't and it gave me about 15 stitches and a 2" scar to remind me not to try it again. Do kids even have metal shop anymore?

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I was wondering the same thing as I tapped out (I also should have taken typing with the girls - who knew ?), my bloody experience. From what I gather, now EVERYONE learns to type very well, but don't learn one end of a screwdriver from the other end of a wrench.   -  Carl 

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The best trick for cleaning the ways is to use a dull carbide scraper... it just pushes the rust off.

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When I was in training to be a machinist the first class we had, before ever going into the machine shop, was safety training.  The instructor was an old machinist with about 30 years experience. We were in a classroom but he was wearing his safety glasses. He asked the rest of us to put on a pair. Then he took his glasses off and held them up in his left hand. He told us, "This is the most important piece of safety equipment you will ever have. Companies will hire a machinist with fingers or toes missing but they won't hire a blind machinist". Then he held up his right hand to show he had a finger missing to prove his point.  After some discussion about safety glasses he held up a chuck key for a lathe. It's a simple, harmless looking tool that is essential to using a lathe.   He said, "This may be be the most dangerous tool you will use in a machine shop. If you turn the lathe on with it still in the chuck you may be badly hurt or killed". This is some good advice for someone using a lathe for the first time.

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When I worked in the tool room leaving the chuck key in on a lathe or drill press was a mandatory  day off without pay. When I started my dad told me to never trust a machine. It will sit doing it's job day after day for years and years, and the whole time it is just patiently watching and waiting for someone to get careless. .............Bob

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Dalton made lathes very similar to the South Bend. My Nine by Four Dalton has been a really nice piece of equipment that I've use many times making parts for restoration projects.  This one had some surface rust when I got it but cleaned up nicely - WD40, steel wool and plenty of elbow grease (and time), but was a fun project in itself.

 

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Here is a pre and post restoration of a lathe in a condition similar to yours

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1 hour ago, Stude Light said:

Dalton made lathes very similar to the South Bend. My Nine by Four Dalton has been a really nice piece of equipment that I've use many times making parts for restoration projects.  This one had some surface rust when I got it but cleaned up nicely - WD40, steel wool and plenty of elbow grease (and time), but was a fun project in itself.

 

 

 

Here is a pre and post restoration of a lathe in a condition similar to yours

 

 

I have a Dalton Combination Machine. A big old beast. I recently moved it from SoCal to Central Texas. Loaded and unloaded it by myself. Would have been tough at 40. A lot tougher at 71. It's in the shop and I have all my fingers and toes and a functioning spine

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Thank you all for the input - especially for the tool-specific safety items. I've done a fair amount of woodworking and still have all my appendages - scarred maybe, but still present. The tips on cleaing this up are also very helpful. Since I'm planning on taking a welding course in the future, it would be easy to see what's out there for the machine work. I'm sure I'll have more questions when I get started on the project when the weather warms!

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My sons found me a old South Bend and I found if you contact them and give them the number from the table the will send you the information of who purchased it new and when. Mine was purchased in 1928 by someone in Brooklyn NY

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As I've been cleaning this lathe up, I found this "tool" in the drawer of parts. Any idea what it's supposed to hold or do? Is it homemade for something? It's been a great project to bring this lathe back to life - besides being a great indoor project. All the gears, screws, surfaces are in wonderful condition. All the oil and dirt protected them. I will soon post pictures of it done and then decide how to go about selling it. I'm sure there's someone who will get more use out of this than I would ever have.

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Almost every day we use a South Bend 9" only a couple years newer than yours. Some parts are still available from South Bend, or they were a few years ago.

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The only part I needed was one of the gibs. Hope I'm getting that term right. Found one with the screws on eBay and noticed that many of the parts for this lathe are available there also. The two descriptive/advertising booklets and the complete parts book that were in the drawer have been quite valuable to this novice. I was also able to download the 1935 edition of how to run a lathe from the South Bend company. Earlier, John348 suggested contacting the company for information based on my serial number. They responded that they do have that information back to 1929 although it may only be a line or two. They also wanted $25 for that line or two.

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What a great find.

And the price was right, too!

A lathe is one of the tools I want to add to my garage at some point along with a plasma cutter.

Please keep us updated on your progress as you clean it up.

 

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As to that home-made tool, my best guess is a 'spanner' to fit on the jaws of a chuck to unscrew it from the head-stock. I use a 1" square length of hardwood between the jaws, then spin the lathe rapidly by hand. When the wood strikes the bed, it unscrews the chuck. There is probably a 'correct' method, but that one works for me. And I can recommend a board to sit across the ways, under the chuck, for that occasion when the pesky thing slips out of your hands. I'd rather damage a board than the ways.

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The belt I ordered came in today so I'm hoping to have it running in the next couple of days followed by some pictures. I think it looks so good it should be displayed on the dining room buffet, but my wife thinks otherwise.😉

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I cant imagine anyone getting through life without a lathe. Well, for that matter without a Bridgeport and a DoAll and a drill press too.....bob

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Hey, Bob, what's a DoAll? And how have I got through life without one?

 

Sorry Zipdang, we're wandering again.

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DoAll is actually the name of a machine tool company. They,re best known for their line of band saws. Variable speed with an almost infinate variety of blades lets it cut almost any material from sponge rubber to steel as hard as a file. Hence the DoAll moniker.....bob

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