Spazzaroth Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 So I drove my car to work the other day and when I go to turn it off the ignition cylinder will turn all the way to the opposition but the car does not die or shut off and the electrical all stays on. I ended up having to pull the air intake hose off and block the air intake to kill the engine. And then disconnect the negative terminal on the battery to shut the electrical off to the car.I'm guessing that this is some issue to do with the linkage between the key cylinder and the actual car ignition system. But I don't know where to start. Do I need to pull the steering wheel to fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-a-n-i-e-l Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Yes pull the wheel, you will need a lock ring compressor and a steering wheel puller. About $30 Buy a replacement lock cylinder, and not a cheap one or you will be doing the job again soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Is the problem more likely to be the lock cylinder or the rack it moves being broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Should I replace both? when I turn the cylinder into the off position I can pull the key out and lock the steering wheel but the car will not shut off and it won't turn over when I turn it to the starting position either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I have a tan 88/89 steering column with a key if you are interested in buying it. Also can get a burgandy one. If interested email me at; lemke1044@aol.com Will need your zip code to figure freight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I'd check the link from the key to the ignition switch at the base of the steering column before pulling the wheel apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Any chance of getting a picture of what that linkage looks like or where it is? That was the first thing that I look for but I could not find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 6:24 PM, DAVES89 said: I have a tan 88/89 steering column with a key if you are interested in buying it. Also can get a burgandy one. If interested email me at; lemke1044@aol.com Will need your zip code to figure freight. I sent you an email. sounds like The whole steering column is going to be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Spazzaroth said: sounds like The whole steering column is going to be the way to go. Was the rack broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Ronnie said: Was the rack broken? It has to be. I haven't taken it apart yet but it's the only thing that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 A lot of people here on the forum have came to conclusion that changing the whole column is easier than changing the rack. Let us know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 7:26 PM, Ronnie said: Was the rack broken yes,. The rack is broken. But I'm kind of stuck. I can't figure out how to get it out. And on top of that the replacement I ordered is clearly the wrong part. Help! Oh wise Reatta gurus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 Ok, there was a part number on it so I have the right replacement coming. But the task of how to remove it is still pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, Spazzaroth said: But the task of how to remove it is still pressing. Do you have a factory service manual. If so look on pages 3F2-9 and 3F2-10. Looks like It's complicated. I guess that's is the reason most people change the whole column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I FULLY agree with those saying it is far easier to replace the column than to try and fix one. On pullers or special tools. I have been involved in this situation many times. If Dave has a column get it as they are Reatta only columns and getting hard to find. Riviera columns are slightly different as the cruise control wiring is different and hard to fish wires in these columns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 All I have is a tan one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Yeah, tried to get the column but it's not to be. I printed out the section of the service manual. Once the part and the pin remover comes in I'll start phase 2. Wish me luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chieftom Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I just went through the same issue with my Blue 1990. We removed the column and I had it repaired at a shop . Edited March 2, 2019 by chieftom didn't want to confuse anyone (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES89 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 You really should have the boot in place as it is there to keep road moisture from coming into the car... I would think that a lock smith could fix these columns at a more affordable price. I'm a bit lucky as a good friend of mine has both the tools and the knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chieftom Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I agree price was a little high but it was the only shop I could find that does this repair. Also agree the boot has a purpose, but you got to do what you got to do sometimes. My Reatta"s are now fair weather cars only so shouldn't be a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazzaroth Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 well I got the column apart I got the part replaced and I got it all back together and the car is working. One slight snafu when I installed the lock cylinder apparently I had the switch on the ignition switch actuator in the accessory position. So now if I lock the steering wheel and remove the key the car turns on the radio. So have got a tear it back down get the ignition cylinder out and fix that. But other than that it was a successful operation the most difficult part was realigning the lock plate on the steering wheel shaft with the splines on the shaft as I was putting it back together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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