MICKTHEDIG Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Our car has a safety inspection window sticker from the 1965 Glidden Tour, I also found a map of the 1967 tour under the seat, and oral history says the car went up Pikes Peak which could be the 1964 tour. Is there any way of finding out which tours an individual car has done on? Thanks Mick 1921 Lincoln Model L Merrimac Touring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 There is no way of looking up a car and simply reading off its tour record. However, you could probably check records by phoning the AACA Library: Look up the 1964 Glidden Tour and see whether a 1921 Lincoln was enrolled. They will also have the owner's name to verify the specific car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Thanks just sent them an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Neat car...how about a photo or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I am trying to get it running for 100th birthday in 2021, I have the engine partially dismantled at the moment, has lots of carbon deposits everywhere (head, valves, etc) and lots of ware on the valve stems. The engine is a 1929 replacement, so I am trying to decide if spend money on it or just clean it and close it back up so I can just run it around town and then have the original 1921 engine professionally rebuilt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Making it run on the 29 if not too expensive or difficult is a good idea. Then you can take your time on the original and swap it out at some future time. Very unusual and neat Leland Lincoln........I like it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoringicons Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I have always been fond of the long, narrow and rounded bodies on those early Lincolns. They are also great runners. Congratulations on your "new" car and keep us posted on the progress. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcarnut Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I have a good friend with a 23 Lincoln he took on the last Colorado Glidden a few years ago. Took it up Mt Evans and had no problems going up or coming down as Second gear had perfect engine braking avoiding heating up the two wheel brakes. It will do 55-60 but he keeps it 45 due the two brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 100 year old, two wheel brakes, what could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stutzl6 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I was on the 1965 glidden tour with my 1923 ford t with a Zagelmeyer camper body this was to Luray Va. A ioo miles a day for 5 day , round trip 1600 miles Sill have the camper Thanks JOHN GRUNDER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 In the 60s our Lincoln was owned then by Oakley Arnold Sumpter, he was from Port Deposit Maryland, he is the one that did the Glidden Tours we think. Here is a picture of him in his workshop. Sumpter brought the car from Josephine de Nancrede Henry the sister of the guy in the white (Howard). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) There should be Tour coverage in Antique Automobile a few issues after the Tour. My 1912 T was on the 1950 Glidden and that Tour got some great coverage along with a list of all the cars and owners. Nice looking Lincoln, good to see another car with hobby history coming back into the hobby. Bob Edited January 9, 2019 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 I wonder if there are write-ups with the drives names for all the tours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It's possible that Patricia Swigart at the William E. Swigart Museum in Huntington PA might have the Glidden Tour records of that tour. While the Museum is closed for the season, you might try her in the spring. The Swigart Museum www.swigartmuseum.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 I am getting the AACA library at Hershey to have a look at their records for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 In the references of the wikipedia Glidden Tour entry, there is a link to film of the 1964 Tour. Unfortunately, you need to log into facebook to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Spinneyhill said: In the references of the wikipedia Glidden Tour entry, there is a link to film of the 1964 Tour. Unfortunately, you need to log into facebook to see it. Does Facebook have any info on the 1950 Glidden Tour. Can non members view it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidAU Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 This may work https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1964+Glidden+Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 5:02 PM, MICKTHEDIG said: 100 year old, two wheel brakes, what could go wrong? Especially on the way down from the top of Pikes Peak.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 5:02 PM, MICKTHEDIG said: 100 year old, two wheel brakes, what could go wrong? Properly set up two wheel brakes are fine - usually I can throw someone through the windshield (sure, nowhere like today's standards, but do the job well). You hear me preaching a lot about 20's and 30's car brakes as they really do work fine, but it takes a lot of hard learned lessons to build experience. When I have shoes done the first thing people want to do is sell me the most high tech lining on the market today and that will not work - think low tech woven linings. Sidenote: I am fine with bonding, but also insist on rivets. You cannot have worn parts, the shoes have to have the same arc as the drum, and,you adjust them with a feeler gauge and we are talking 1000th's. Also , you need good cables, bushings, and ... everywhere else in the system. I would say also that you are back into brakes every 5K to 10K miles. You also have an emergency brake and it is there for more than parking. And I also do not drive an early car off the hand throttle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, DavidAU said: This may work https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1964+Glidden+Tour This is fun ! Sidenote: When I watched it the focus struck me - Via touring it seems that when everyone was driving brass cars we were criticized for driving a 1931 Cadillac. When everyone was driving 1930's car we criticized for driving a 1941 Cadillac. When everyone seemed to be driving 50's cars we were then driving earlier cars. And, ... My point being people in 1965 and so may have been heavier photographers of the older cars verses the newer. By the way: Really attractive Lincoln ! Edited January 13, 2019 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Great film, did not spot our Lincoln though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) I just found out the owner of the car in the 1960s also did the 1966 Glidden Tour, but not sure if he was driving the Lincoln. Edited January 13, 2019 by MICKTHEDIG (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaflash8 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 10:36 AM, John_S_in_Penna said: There is no way of looking up a car and simply reading off its tour record. However, you could probably check records by phoning the AACA Library: Look up the 1964 Glidden Tour and see whether a 1921 Lincoln was enrolled. They will also have the owner's name to verify the specific car. I'm wondering if that car didn't once belong to Oakley A. Sumpter of Havre de Grace, MD. He drove a Lincoln on that tour. His friend, Ernie Gill of W. Baltimore also drove a 1912 Packard on that tour. I think they traveled together. I was a very young and recent member of the Chesapeake Region in Baltimore at the time. Somebody in that club kept all of the newsletters, but he would have passed by now. Maybe somebody else took over from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaflash8 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 12:25 PM, John_Mereness said: This is fun ! Sidenote: When I watched it the focus struck me - Via touring it seems that when everyone was driving brass cars we were criticized for driving a 1931 Cadillac. When everyone was driving 1930's car we criticized for driving a 1941 Cadillac. When everyone seemed to be driving 50's cars we were then driving earlier cars. And, ... My point being people in 1965 and so may have been heavier photographers of the older cars verses the newer. By the way: Really attractive Lincoln ! Oh how I know that story from the brass car guys back in the day!! Oakley Sumpter was one of the club leaders who were extremely critical of my "used car" 1939 Buick 41 series sedan. Up until 1966 we really didn't like each other because of his views on cars like mine, or at least I didn't like him for the same reason. However, I grew on him as the Club newsletter editor and eventually we became friendly. He was basically a very friendly and nice guy and he was a good dancer too; especially he could do a dance called the "buck stomp". Doing that he could light up the dance floor. In those days we had an annual banquet, dance, AACA National Directors were invited and some would always come. Oakley owned a fleet of school buses and put on a show for a lot of years in Havre de Grace, MD. I remember very well him becoming upset because I drove my old "used car" '39 Buick up to that show in 1964 or 65. That's the way all of the guys my Dad's age in the club thought in those times. I guess some of the current "old guys" today who are around 80 like me, think the same way about the newer cars in the club today. But I remember the "put down" of that "used car" term. I don't do it. Although I still love late 30s and 40s cars the most, I just bought a 1991 Buick Park Avenue with 3,000 original miles and I love it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Yes, it was Oakley's car, he sold it to Henry Harper of Lake Forest,Il and my father in law brought it from him in the early 70s. I was a dark purple (eggplant) color then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1919Hudson Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I recently joined AACA and have a 1919 Hudson 7 passenger Touring that my dad drove in the 1965 Glidden Tour. I have my Dad's tour booklet that lists the cars on the 1965 tour, and car number 129 is listed as a 1921 Leland Lincoln Touring owned by Oskley Sumpter, Rt. 1, Box 59 A, Ferryville, MD I hope this helps. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICKTHEDIG Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 That's great! Does anybody have the tour booklet for 1964? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpeeler Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Does anybody have the tour booklet for 1961- I believe it was in the Poconos (PA)? I'm set to return my '14 Simplex to the Glidden tour this year and it was owned/driven by Mahlon Patton in the 1961 Glidden. Leads appreciated! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK SPURR Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 HOW DO I FIND OUT WHO WON 1964 GILLDEN TOUR I HAVE A TROPHY FROM A ERNEST GILL DOES ANY ONE KNOW THAT WINNER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Rick, Barbara Fox is the VMCCA historian and has extensive documentation on the Glidden tour history. PM me and I can put you in touch with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 The Detroit Public Library has a lot of info on Glidden Tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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