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Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?

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Joe Knowles' 1909 Stevens Duryea, a common site on tours in New England in the 1950's.  Would love to know its fate.

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26 minutes ago, twin6 said:

What I know about Olds, could fill a thimble.  I got a PM saying it's an Autocrat, not a Limited, and edited the original post.  Looks like a serious car that ought to be well cared for in someone's collection today, somewhere!

 

Going by the Standard Catalog info the Autocrat was basically a Limited with two cylinders removed, on a shorter frame (126" vs 140"), and on smaller wheels (38 x 4 1/2 vs 42 x 4 1/2). From a distance probably hard to tell apart.

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17 minutes ago, twin6 said:

Joe Knowles' 1909 Stevens Duryea, a common site on tours in New England in the 1950's.  Would love to know its fate.

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Last I knew it was in Central Massachuetts in a collection with two or three others. They were all for sale at the time.

 

 

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I just got up to get a cup of coffee and came back and noticed this October 1, 1911 ad on the very top of the shelf behind the chair I'm sitting it. Bob 

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Re the Olds parade photo - Francis V DuPont of Wilmington entered a 1911 Olds in the 1946 Glidden. 

 

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The 1948 AACA roster said that he had a 1911 "Aristocrat" - the politically correct way of talking about an Autocrat?  I don't think this was an Olds model, probably just an error. 

 

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1954-61 rosters show a 1911 4-cylinder, 7-pass. car, in "original" condition, #65755, owned by Charles Boothby.  The 1968 register doesn't show 65755, but it shows a 1911 4-cylinder 7-pass. Autocrat, owned by J A Frost.

 

I'm unilaterally calling the election for the boardwalk photo car to be DuPont (though I may have been tampered with :-).  But even I wouldn't want to make any hard guesses about Boothby or Frost.

 

I wonder if the color photo is Atlantic City.  There were regular antique car parades there, and the 1948 parade shows a placard very similar to the one on the Olds.

 

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And what's 2 cars behind the Olds?  A Model K Ford with wire wheels?  Hispano-Suiza Alfonso XIII?  Cameron Peck sent a 1912 Hispano-Suiza to the 1949 parade.

 

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The Hispano that he had in at Fairmount Park in 1949 sure looked like the parade car.

 

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Speaking of cars from long ago, is this the roadster that is now at Beaulieu?

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On 12/29/2018 at 2:37 PM, twin6 said:

Packard 1006 Individual Custom Dietrich sport phaeton, decades ago when owned by Bayard Badenhausen.  Not sure where this is today.

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New Years breakfast run!

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Show off!   It rained like a banshee up here last night,  but the good news is it will be 50 something degrees today.  I'm gonna work outside!

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3 hours ago, alsancle said:

Show off!  

Yes, and when he wakes up, time to say 3 Hail Mary's and his turn to post a 60+ year old snapshot to challenge the viewers.  I'm envious of that ride!

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3 hours ago, twin6 said:

Yes, and when he wakes up, time to say 3 Hail Mary's and his turn to post a 60+ year old snapshot to challenge the viewers.  I'm envious of that ride!

 

 

Per your request..........

 

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The 1911 Oldsmobile Autocrat from the 1948 Parade picture is currently owned by the gentleman that owns RM auctions. The car has not changed much since the picture. This and the Millers car are the only two 7 passenger Autocrats. 

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Ray, thanks for that -- it's wonderful to know that 70 years on, that car is still in great shape and getting out.

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On 1/1/2019 at 2:57 PM, edinmass said:

Per your request..........

 

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I'll venture where I shouldn't..... Auburn 851?    No idea if the car or smoker survived, but I hope both did.

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On 1/1/2019 at 1:57 PM, edinmass said:

 

 

Per your request..........

 

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A 35-36 Auburn  that looks to be rode hard and put away wet.  Someone replaced the RV mirror.  Is that you in your younger rebellious days Ed?

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38 minutes ago, Curti said:

A 35-36 Auburn  that looks to be rode hard and put away wet.  Someone replaced the RV mirror.  Is that you in your younger rebellious days Ed?

 

No......in my younger days I was stuck on Cadillacs.......I was abused as a youth. Found my way to the world of Pierce Arrow next.......now I’m sort of a well rounded 30’s guy. 😎

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This gem turned up on the HAMB today, can some Packard people tell us about it? Bob 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

This gem turned up on the HAMB today, can some Packard people tell us about it? Bob 

 

 

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Milan auto show, showing the 1933 Packards -- the so-called 10th Series, introduced (if I recall correctly) in January 1933.

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James Melton’s 1903 White steamer at an event, date not known.  You can see this car (and others) in motion, in the pre-race parade at Indy in 1946 here.  The oldest cars in the parade are, in order of appearance, an 1897 Roberts Electric, a 1900 curved dash Olds, Melton’s White, a 1908 Buick (smoking enough it looks like a Stanley), a 1910 model T, a 1910 Olds Limited, a 1913 Chevrolet and a Packard 2nd series twin six.  I’m familiar with some of these cars, but wonder if the Olds limited is one anyone can ID as to owner then or now.

There are other cars that followed the earliest, and I'll defer to others to identify those.

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Another steamer - 1910 or so Stanley, ownership attributed to Dr Henry Jewell of Nashua.  It has a curious, probably homemade mother-in-law seat stuck on to the factory rear box.  Probably taken in the late '30s or early '40s, by the car in the background - it could easily have survived.

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I posted this in the What is it? page. Adding it here. Lozier?

 

 

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On ‎1‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 3:27 PM, 1937hd45 said:

Could be a younger McGowan Brother. 

 

Bob 

Bob I bought new in box 30 /31Cadillac V8 distributer caps from the McGowan brothers at Hershey back in the 80s. For the unheard of price of $50. a pop. I still have one left. 

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