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Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?

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4 hours ago, 1912Staver said:

I vaguely  recall seeing a article in a 1960's Antique Automobile about a fire that destroyed several classic Packard's including if I remember correctly FDR's parade car. Any one have any further info ?

 

Greg

I think it use to be a J.C Taylor insurance company advertisement.

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Now that you mention it I also remember the advert. However I also think there was an article about the collection, either just before or just after the fire.

 

Greg

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Fred Ross owned the FDR car, and you remember correctly, it was destroyed by fire.

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Where is this car today?  A steamer made up by a Mr. Benoit, with a Stanley engine mounted forward of the firewall.  He called it a Stan-Ben.  Does the car survive, or was it dismantled and used as a donor for other projects?

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37 minutes ago, twin6 said:

Where is this car today?  A steamer made up by a Mr. Benoit, with a Stanley engine mounted forward of the firewall.  He called it a Stan-Ben.  Does the car survive, or was it dismantled and used as a donor for other projects?

 

 

Other than the 6 foot high windshield that is pretty cool.   Makes me think of the steam powered auburn coupe that was for sale last year, although a much later car.

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When growing up in the outskirts of Detroit in the 60's a neighbor had a few very interesting Cadillac's. One was a large pre war open car which they described as an FDR parade car. Seems the last name of the owner was Barthet. Do you think it was an FDR car and is it still around?  

 

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Dave 

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28 minutes ago, Dave39MD said:

When growing up in the outskirts of Detroit in the 60's a neighbor had a few very interesting Cadillac's. One was a large pre war open car which they described as an FDR parade car. Seems the last name of the owner was Barthet. Do you think it was an FDR car and is it still around?  

 

Thanks

 

Dave 

 

 

Much like every single german car delivered to England was attributed to Count Von Ribbontrop,  every big 1930s  touring  car in the U.S. was an FDR parade car.

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When I was growing up George Washington apparently slept in a different house every night.

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You are probably right, it was a massive open car but most cars are big to a ten year old.

 

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Dave

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On 3/24/2019 at 1:23 PM, StanleyRegister said:

Freshly-discovered photo of a Duesenberg supercharged convertible sedan.  The back says "1934 Duseenberg 1934 supercharged, John Seelinger, owner, sold at time of photo for $1500."

 

Skirted front fenders that come low over the tires, sidemounts, flat windshield, no vent windows, center door handles, unskirted rear fenders, integrated trunk - I can't find one like it in a quick internet search.

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That Duesenberg is identified on Page 201 of Fred Roe's text as having a body built in 1931 by Seattle Auto Rebuilders, mounted on car 2451, J439.  It was remounted on another chassis in 1935, later it was replaced with a Murphy dual cowl phaeton replica, but this convertible sedan body was being restored to use on yet another Duesenberg J chassis.  Its still out there somewhere, seems as if it went through the auctions cycle a few years ago.  Some elements of this body make me wonder if Seattle Auto Rebuilder modified an existing convertible sedan body from another car to create this one.  I can't quite put my finger on what car that body and coachbuilder it came from.

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Looks somebody really monkeyed around w this poor old Duesenberg- anybody ever seen this one ? is that a Dupont grille?

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Not a DuPont grille, but weird for that car. looks more similar to a Marmon 16 grille.

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This was taken on the way to Hershey from Rochester in the early 60's along Rt 15. Either in the Southern Tier or in northern PA......Anyone remember it?

 

 

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Am I counting the louvers correctly?  A long wheelbase Beverly.

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Vampira in a Packard 840 touring car, 1954.  Where did this one go?

 

The car or Vampira? 🤩

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10 hours ago, keiser31 said:

Not a DuPont grille, but weird for that car. looks more similar to a Marmon 16 grille.

Or Diamond T Truck. Bob 

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Just now, 1937hd45 said:

Or Diamond Reo Truck. Bob 

Well I mean its kind of like a Miller race car look

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5 hours ago, alsancle said:

Are we sure that is a Duesenberg? Feels more Isotta to me.

Did all Duesenberg J's leave the factory with front fenders? The ones on the car look different than most IMO. Bob 

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2 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

Did all Duesenberg J's leave the factory with front fenders? The ones on the car look different than most IMO. Bob 

That heavy skirting was a Bohman & Schwartz trick, grafted on modernize the look in the mid-'30's.  Frankly, all it did was make the cars look heavy and without grace.

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13 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said:

That heavy skirting was a Bohman & Schwartz trick, grafted on modernize the look in the mid-'30's.  Frankly, all it did was make the cars look heavy and without grace.


I wasn’t talking about the skirted car with the Seattle Auto body, but the other picture which looks more like an Isotta Franchini  to me than Duesenberg.

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2 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

Or Diamond Reo Truck. Bob 

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That truck gets around!  At the ATHS show in South Bend in 2011.

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On 1/25/2019 at 6:33 PM, Walt G said:

That Franklin barrel hood touring is either a model D or most likely the model H. The model H was the largest the model G the smallest engine wise, the G had 4 cylinder the H a 6 cylinder. look at the length of the hood - that is a good indication, I think it is a model H. I have no idea if the car still exists.

Wonder what model Ralph DeAngrlis had? I remember it was a bid barrel hood but can't remember if it was a 4 or 6. Bob 

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