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On ‎12‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 3:46 PM, Dynaflash8 said:

Where do you get a USPS flat rate box big enough to ship a generator or starter?......not here at my post office.  And a bunch of Pierce Arrow pieces of iron?  A Flat Rate box?  Even the large box for $18something can only hold so much, even bulging.

Yes, the item or items need to fit in the box with out bulging, Ford starters and generators fit in a Medium box just fine. Tape them like you were going to receive them, add a 1/4 inch piece of plywood on the bottom it's FLAT RATE, plywood and old magazines are great packing.  There are some size boxes you need to order on line and they are also free. Large long Flat Rate boxes and legal Flat rate need to be ordered, always good to have them on hand. Bob 

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Dynaflash8, you did not mention how you wanted UPS or Fedex to ship the radio. Most of the guys I have dealt with overseas seem to want to pack the stuff with a ton of packing material and wood crates and then ONLY want to ship express next day delivery. Well in the old car hobby, do you really need rusty brackets/non working parts packed in a ton of old newspapers and have to have it delivered tomorrow? UPS and FEDEX offer next day overnight express delivery,  express 3 day, or 7 to 14 day standard delivery. The same applies to USPS, they have a standard rate which is a fraction of the cost of their express mail. Did you ask for express delivery rate? Does your buyer NEED it tomorrow morning?

 I live in Zimbabwe and shipping costs to here are horrendous, so I have learned to ship my stuff, either to my long suffering sister in Canada or to a Michigan address so that my packages can be repacked as lightly and as small as possible, before being onward shipped to me.

 Some years ago we ordered a lot of mechanical and rubber parts from a well known vendor in USA and asked specifically for it to be sent by USPS in several small boxes and to ensure that it was not sent by courier. The vendor was paid by credit card, well 3 days later it arrived at my door in 1 big box delivered by FEDEX,  the box weighed 96lbs charged at $14 a lb. To add insult to injury the vendor used old newspapers to liberally pack the 18lbs of parts, so the cost of the box and papers added over $900 to the cost of the shipping. We complained to the vendor and they could not care less.

  I have had things, like a small light switch 3inch x 3inch x 2 inches that weighed 4oz sent to Canada in a box 2ft cubed, with 9lbs of paper around it, the cost of postage was horrendous, but again you are at ebay's mercy.

 Another item we ordered from UK was a small bearing that cost £35 (+-$50), we wrote on the order in bold red letters SHIP BY UK POST, but the moron filling the order just sent it DHL at a cost of $770usd. The guys filling the orders either don't care or Don't realise what it is costing their clients. 

 I have a 26 Nash to restore and the gas tank is rusted out, last year I bought a parts car in USA and the tank is good, it is 36in long and 15in diameter and weighs 10kg (22lbs), I figured on maybe 10lbs of packing materials, so a total weight of 32lbs. I did my homework, on USPS it was too big for them to post to Zim,  online with UPS or FEDEX I can ONLY get express delivery and for a mere $1080, because they work on volume or weight, and in this case the volume costs more than the weight. Needless to say the tank will remain in USA and I have had to make a new one over here.

 As for tracking numbers, it's nice to see where your package is , but can also be frustrating, my last item was posted by USPS express delivery (5 days ??) from Tennessee, well I tracked it , it went from Tn to Jamaica central sorting office, from there it went back to New York, then Paris, Madrid and Lisbon, before it disappeared off the face of the earth and eventually ended up here 7 weeks later. Where it went from Lisbon is a mystery, but so much for express 5 day guaranteed delivery. I don't bother with express delivery or Airmail anymore, it all goes by surface mail, still takes 7-9 weeks at a fraction of the cost.

Viv.

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This from NPR's All Things Considered, 4/4/2018:

 

BRIAN NAYLOR, BYLINE:  In fact, package deliveries have been the bright spot in the Postal Service's financial picture the last several years. It reported more than $19 billion of revenue from package deliveries last year - an increase of 11 percent.

Still, that wasn't enough to put the Postal Service into the black. In part, that's because fewer people are mailing first-class letters and bills. The Postal Service lost some $2.7 billion last year. Democratic Senator Tom Carper of Delaware says there's another reason for the red ink - something few, if any, other businesses have to deal with.

TOM CARPER: The other thing that's hurting the Postal Service's bottom line is a requirement to pay off, over a 10-year period of time, health care costs for their pensioners. That's what's really choking the Postal Service - that and the decline in first-class mail.

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Question for Overseas buyers: When I list items on eBay are there things you look for in the Title, or if the "Global Shipping" option has been checked off. I have a feeling global is an expensive joke. I enjoy selling World Wide, how do I attract more buyers? Bob 

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3 minutes ago, MochetVelo said:

BRIAN NAYLOR, BYLINE:  In fact, package deliveries have been the bright spot in the Postal Service's financial picture the last several years. It reported more than $19 billion of revenue from package deliveries last year - an increase of 11 percent.

 

Revenue is irrelevant.  Selling more items or services at a loss is not a good thing. Profit is what matters. In the case of the USPS, I do believe that package deliveries are what is keeping them alive, but I don't know how profitable they are.  I'm certainly one of those folks who no longer mail letters, nor do I write any checks.  Every transaction I do is on line - including bill payments.

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9 hours ago, MochetVelo said:

I checked USPS rates on 30 lbs. from Miami to Oregon City. The cost came to $77.16 using your own box. If it fits in a USPS box, the cost is under $20. If your box is over 12" long, the price may be higher, but you can check for yourself at www.usps.com. 

 

Phil


Agreed.

 

I've learned that if I can't fit it in flat rate USPS boxes then it's not worth the hassle to even try UPS or FEDEX (or anyone else for that matter).

Both are way to expensive for my needs....and most of my buyers needs.

I used to ship transmissions and heavy stuff but no more... just isn't worth the hassle so I force myself to sell the bulk items locally at swap or craigs... problem solved.

 

Of course choosing the USPS for smalls only means I run the risk of dealing with the USPS cluster &*@! system and clueless employees at times,...  However, most are good folks and do a great job and have had only 2 lost or damaged packages in the past 20 years.

 

As the saying goes.. If it ain't broke...

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Bob,

As an overseas buyer on eBay, I always look at the ships to information rather than what’s in the title or the description because the seller has to have their settings correct in the listing for the item to allow me to bid on or buy an item. However I’m lucky to have friends in the States that will accept goods on my behalf if the seller won’t post to Australia and there are freight forwarders so there are work arounds but I agree the Global Shipping option by eBay is not a good one. Of course on many occasions our items are purchased from people and businesses rather than eBay listings so this isn’t a consideration.

Most of our purchases come via USPS and the minimum postage for even the smallest parcel is about USD45 which for us you have to add another 25-30% for the exchange rate. So we have to factor this in when we bid or make an offer. Time wise it’s a 7-10 day wait for air freight to a capital city and I would guess even more to a more remote location.

I know it is frustrating but I am an advocate of tracking as we have watched items which were mailed to Australia end up in Austria, only to be returned to sender.

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There are two types of medium flat rate boxes, big shallow, and smaller but taller one. The smaller taller medium box is perfect for shipping a pair of brake calipers.

 

both are the same price, $13.65. Should be available on request at any post office.

 

Medium Flat Rate Box – 1 size is 11 1/4" x 8 3/4" x 6"

Medium Flat Rate Box – 2 size is 14" x 12" x 3 1/2"

 

http://www.usps.com/ship/priority-mail.htm?

 

 

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The seldom seen  Large Flat Rate box 24x12x3 is a real gem! I've custom cut old barn siding to fit in it and advertised it and sold it to craft people to make signs. Bob 

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1 hour ago, 1937hd45 said:

Question for Overseas buyers: When I list items on eBay are there things you look for in the Title, or if the "Global Shipping" option has been checked off. I have a feeling global is an expensive joke. I enjoy selling World Wide, how do I attract more buyers? Bob 

 

Shipping is a big consideration.Offering to supply a quote on international shipping, as opposed to the 'Global Shipping Program', will appeal to potential buyers. First thing I look for after the item Title is 'Country of Origin'. China, very cheap postage (to Aus),  and UK and US sellers, possibly better quality, but much higher shipping costs. It is surprising the number of US businesses who will not use the USPS, with the result that we cannot afford to deal with them. US$20 worth of fasteners, US$170 for fedex, or whoever they exclusively use. Sorry, I'll look elsewhere. A smaller business will often email back that if I can make do with one less bolt, the postage will fall into the next lower weight bracket, saving me X number of dollars on freight. These are the businesses we return to.

 

I have come to the point where I will not buy through ebay if the item is to be shipped under the global shipping program. On principle, as I regard it as a rip-off. A real headache with lower cost US and UK purchases, where the seller is likely unaware of the cost difference. If the 'postage' is high, I either pass on the item, or contact the seller. Small items such as a speedometer cost around 12-15 UK pounds through the UK postal service, and 35+ pounds through the  global shipping program. Small beer, perhaps, but it all adds up.

 

I do like the USPS flat-rate boxes, having received heavy items such as generators and starters in them, here in Tasmania, for a VERY reasonable charge. It may take a few days longer, but with restorations, shipping time is not the main consideration. On 2 occasions the parcels have disappeared, but ebay refunded the cost.

 

Australia has recently made it mandatory for ebay to add 10% sales tax onto every offshore sale into Aus. This is fallout from Amazon opening a 'store' here in Aus, and retailers crying foul on the avoided tax. Amazon had the tax ruling applied, and ebay were caught in the same net. Incidentally, Australians can no longer purchase direct from Amazon US, which kills it for me, as the local product offering doesn't cover most of what I am buying.

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5 hours ago, Dynaflash8 said:

Where do you get a USPS flat rate box big enough to ship a generator or starter?......not here at my post office.  And a bunch of Pierce Arrow pieces of iron?  A Flat Rate box?  Even the large box for $18something can only hold so much, even bulging.

Earl, I wish I had taken a photo.  Four Houdaille hockey-puck shocks and arms and a water pump from a 1926 Series 80 constituted the Big Chunks in that box, deftly arranged......

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1 minute ago, Grimy said:

Where do you get a USPS flat rate box big enough to ship a generator or starter?......not here at my post office.

I do believe you can have them drop shipped to your house by USPS for free.  Go to USPS.com and under shop mail supplies. 

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USPS has a great deal on Priority Shipping.  Use their box, which is pretty large and cost is fixed at around $18.00 - doesn't matter if it's 2 lbs or up to 70lbs.  Their smaller box is around $13 up to 70.  Plus, it gets there in 2 days.  Wonderful for our business where the items are heavy.  Check it out.

 

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16 hours ago, J.H.Boland said:

You think you have it bad. Try bringing something over the border. I bought a pair of cowl lamps from a fellow in California for ,as I recall,about $75 US. The shipping fee was about $25.

Our Canadian dollar is about 75 cents on the US greenback. The parcel arrived by UPS and I was informed by the driver that I owed UPS $85 in brokerage fees ! The cowl lamps still had to be restored. Katching katching !

USPS is the way to go for smaller items,assuming Canada Post isn't on strike. Larger parcels I have delivered to my nearest border point (Port Huron,MI) and pick them up there personally.

One of our members in New Orleans knows I am coming to Philly in Feb. and emailed me if I could bring four rims for his Cadillac. Not to far out of my way so I am helping him out. The price would be very high to ship I would think plus brokerage fees through customs.

One of the Canadian hot rod forums has a section that is for transporting parts by members helping each other out.

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The $18 Priority box here at this post office is only about 3 inches tall.  Put a generator in that.  I'll go to USPS.com and see if they will send bigger boxes to your house from some post office on high.

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You never did give us the dimensions?  I have a FedEx account and put in 30lbs from Miami to Clackamas and it was $42.45 FedEx ground.  I ship car stuff from SE Texas to all points and have never paid over $100 for anything.  Two Pontiac  heads are about $85 no matter where I send them.  

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I shipped an entire 1939 bumper from KY to Vegas recently for $42 FedEx ground.  Granted it did not weigh 30 lbs, but it was long and awkward.  

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2 hours ago, 61-63 said:

You never did give us the dimensions?

 If it is like a 1937 buick radio it is to long for a large flat rate box. A 1937 radio is about 15x6x6.

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  • Question for Overseas buyers: When I list items on eBay are there things you look for in the Title, or if the "Global Shipping" option has been checked off. I have a feeling global is an expensive joke. I enjoy selling World Wide, how do I attract more buyers? Bob 

Hi Bob, as an overseas buyer when looking for parts on Ebay, I first look at the year and make of car I'm looking for, then the items newly listed, if it's what I need, I then look at the price, then shipping costs and location of the part. If the part is reasonably priced and the shipping cost is reasonable I may bid on the item.

Often guys list a part cheaply, but the shipping cost listed can be a total rip off. For instance you may find a $10 retail item listed for $2, but the shipping on the small item is $30, I don't even bother to comment on these rip off merchants.

 The other guys I avoid, unless I am desperate for the item, are those that list "ship to the lower 48 only" or "we don't sell outside the USA", what these guys don't realise, is that there is a world wide web of international buyers, who may want to buy your item, and some of those buyers will pay top dollar for your item. When you live in places such as ours, the car you are building may be the only one of its type within 5000 miles, so if you really, really need that part, you are going to bid on it and pay if you win the bid.

 What I hate with ebay is the companies and individuals that list pages of metal repro signs, mustang conv kits, aftermarket parts and lights that will "fit your car", about as well as your wife will accept second hand underwear from a charity shop. These adds are a pain and have nothing to do with vintage , antique cars.

Viv

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So, if I DON'T check off accept Global Shipping I'm not chasing away potential buyers overseas? I have had overseas buyers ask about items, and once I know they are interested I'll remove the Global ripoff and mail man to man. I always feel bad about the cost of things to Australia and New Zealand. Bob 

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I could not put 4 dash plaques that were individual sales into one package for a German buyer. Here is a capture of my $8.00 price plus his Global shipping Ebay fee. His total for four dash plaques at $8.00 each was $81.00 US.

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We worked out a US address and I sent them for 92 cents.

 

There is a lot of mindless inflexibility in many systems enhanced by programming. I have had a computer program associated with my work since 1974, And even the most sophisticated programing will have a human "work around" at the user level. Very few practical applications end up working the way management envisioned. Usually management doesn't know. The human gives the program the appearance of functionality.

 

Bernie

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4 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

So, if I DON'T check off accept Global Shipping I'm not chasing away potential buyers overseas? I have had overseas buyers ask about items, and once I know they are interested I'll remove the Global ripoff and mail man to man. I always feel bad about the cost of things to Australia and New Zealand. Bob 

 

Bob,

I am surprised that you can edit that feature once you have a bid., What I have been doing is checking off "local pick available" After the sale we deal with the shipping outside of ebay. About 2 years ago I had a guy in Australia  who bought a set of NOS finger shields for a 50 Pontiac.  Fedex was almost $100 to ship them, so  asked me if i could pick up some other parts and include it in the box if he paid me up front and I did. Things we take for granted like points and plugs I picked up for him and packed them up, as long as the box stayed under the maximum weight we were golden

John 

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24 minutes ago, John348 said:

 

Bob,

I am surprised that you can edit that feature once you have a bid., What I have been doing is checking off "local pick available" After the sale we deal with the shipping outside of ebay. About 2 years ago I had a guy in Australia  who bought a set of NOS finger shields for a 50 Pontiac.  Fedex was almost $100 to ship them, so  asked me if i could pick up some other parts and include it in the box if he paid me up front and I did. Things we take for granted like points and plugs I picked up for him and packed them up, as long as the box stayed under the maximum weight we were golden

John 

I can't remember exactly how things went, maybe the overseas buyer asked before he bid and I removed the global. I do remember the first Global go round a 45.00 book a lady bought was going to cost over $20.00 as I recall in postage. Same with an envelope & letterhead a while back, $3.00 vs $23.00. There is some FedEx deal that an Australian worked out to ship a crankcase for half the asking price of everyone else, worked out very well. Bob 

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I had a German buyer respond saying if I ship a part to a Florence, KY address, he would take care of the rest.  There is a giant UPS hub in Florence, so I figured that was what he was using.  No idea, but it all worked well.  I sent there, and he ended up getting it.

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