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Wanted a ‘1938’ series 41 Buick.   Very good condition.   Very good interior and good paint.   Good oil pressure and working gages.   

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This one looks pretty good. Corot Beige. I had one this color, striking, great color if you live down a dirt road: https://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1938-buick-special-nice/6741608147.html

Ebay car looks good, too, repaint in something like original Buick dark blue. Looks like wiring has been patched, may need attention, but relatively rare and beautiful body style.

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funny thing with the slants and humpbacks............ you usually like one and not the other, but both are popular.

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oil pressure will not be good or last long unless during overhaul or for some other reason they didn't change the oil pump and install a 1941-53 style oil pump with the larger gears.

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 Although I am more of an Oldsmobile, Cadillac and Packard guy, the 38 Buick had by far, the most beautiful looking front end of all 38 model cars with the 38 Cadillac 60 Special a close second. Although it's not for sale, here is a photo of my 38 Buick opera coupe. I recall riding in the jump seats in this car as a kid. Have not had this one out in a long time but it's dry and held up very well over time. I try to keep up on the cars in this area, a wipe down now and then, air in the tires, ect and the overhead skylights help keep away dampness and mildew. This part of the building was closed off and walled in years ago so getting the car out is not possible anymore. If you walk down those dark hallways behind the Buick, you will come across three more 38 Buicks, a Century convertible coupe, a convertible sedan and a huge Buick 90 Limited. I can't get any of those cars out anymore but I'll climb back there and take some photos for fun. It's pittyful.

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On 12/5/2018 at 1:31 PM, RICHELIEUMOTORCAR said:

  This part of the building was closed off and walled in years ago so getting the car out is not possible anymore. If you walk down those dark hallways behind the Buick, you will come across three more 38 Buicks, a Century convertible coupe, a convertible sedan and a huge Buick 90 Limited. I can't get any of those cars out anymore but I'll climb back there and take some photos for fun. It's pittyful.

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I think I'm going to be sick.

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I’m good at getting ‘38 Buicks out of old buildings, can I come give it a try? 

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On 12/5/2018 at 4:31 PM, RICHELIEUMOTORCAR said:

 Although I am more of an Oldsmobile, Cadillac and Packard guy, the 38 Buick had by far, the most beautiful looking front end of all 38 model cars with the 38 Cadillac 60 Special a close second. Although it's not for sale, here is a photo of my 38 Buick opera coupe. I recall riding in the jump seats in this car as a kid. Have not had this one out in a long time but it's dry and held up very well over time. I try to keep up on the cars in this area, a wipe down now and then, air in the tires, ect and the overhead skylights help keep away dampness and mildew. This part of the building was closed off and walled in years ago so getting the car out is not possible anymore. If you walk down those dark hallways behind the Buick, you will come across three more 38 Buicks, a Century convertible coupe, a convertible sedan and a huge Buick 90 Limited. I can't get any of those cars out anymore but I'll climb back there and take some photos for fun. It's pittyful.

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So your family did actually put some cars away but in such a way they can't reasonably be removed ?  Did anyone ever undergo psychiatric evaluation after these incidents??  So you go from uncovered field storage to walled in cars. 

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4 hours ago, MrEarl said:

I’m good at getting ‘38 Buicks out of old buildings, can I come give it a try? 

Lamar,  I might just have the right key to get it out. 

If not we could give it one hell of a try. 

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On 12/23/2018 at 9:12 PM, Brooklyn Beer said:

I just have to ask.  Why would you wall in cars and not be able to get them out?

  Understood. There is always a method to the madness. As you acquire more and more cars over an 80 year period, what starts out as a good size building becomes smaller. The answer to that? You just add on more sections. The idea was not how to someday get the cars out again, the idea was to stuff as many as possible in the building. There are narrow long hallways that connect one part of the building to another. Those hallways are how the cars were winched in. Part of the building has a low flat roof, less than 5 ft tall so only open cars with the tops left down could fit in that area. We managed to get a few taller cars down those hallways by taking all the air out of the tires so the tops would just clear the roof by an inch. Now maybe you guys can get an idea on why it's next to impossible to get anything out of this maze?

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On 12/24/2018 at 9:24 PM, auburnseeker said:

So your family did actually put some cars away but in such a way they can't reasonably be removed ?  Did anyone ever undergo psychiatric evaluation after these incidents??  So you go from uncovered field storage to walled in cars. 

  Ah auburnseeker, not nice, you are now moved to the back of the line on getting a chance to see this place for yourself. The field storage as you called it, now full grown forest storage only happened after inside storage was overfilled to the max. Mostly closed cars stayed out. General rule of thumb here from day one, rare open cars went inside while more common closed cars had to stay out.

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Why one would ever do it in the name of saving a car baffles my mind.  Anyways a long time ago,  I decided to not buy any car that I couldn't store properly and when i got tired or found another car I wanted more,  I sold that one first.  None were ever poorly stored for more than a brief time while finding a new owner even at a loss.  I've used neighbors garages while mowing their lawns and shoveling just to keep them under cover.  I'm in the process of building the "garage". designed so no car will be barracaded in.  It cost more but will hopefully be well worth it.   I see so many collections stuffed in poor sheds fallen down full of critters with many cars.  Why not sell a few build a good building and store them properly?  

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17 hours ago, auburnseeker said:

Why one would ever do it in the name of saving a car baffles my mind.  Anyways a long time ago,  I decided to not buy any car that I couldn't store properly and when i got tired or found another car I wanted more,  I sold that one first.  None were ever poorly stored for more than a brief time while finding a new owner even at a loss.  I've used neighbors garages while mowing their lawns and shoveling just to keep them under cover.  I'm in the process of building the "garage". designed so no car will be barracaded in.  It cost more but will hopefully be well worth it.   I see so many collections stuffed in poor sheds fallen down full of critters with many cars.  Why not sell a few build a good building and store them properly?  

  Go back and tell that to my uncles in the 1930s. The building is still good. It's still solid after 80 years. You don't get it auburnseeker. You just don't get it and you brought this up with me before. I tried to explain my issues with moving cars out of here several times in the past with you but again, you just don't get it. Unless you are in it, you can not grasp the situation. Also, who said my cars are in a poor shed that is falling down? The building is for the most part, solid block. Built in the 30s and still strong and dry. This building was built right! You could not put up a building this solid today and my family should be praised and honored, not picked on for saving hundreds, more like a thousand rare old cars from the scrap drives. Many of our cars did come out and are now with new owners who have restored them for all to see and enjoy. We are not hoarders. We did something very few others thought of doing over 80 years ago. We used to trade cars with the real boys from the early days of car collecting, Alex Miller, Barney Pollard, Tom Barrett, even Bill Harrah used to come around looking to buy cars and parts from us. They all came to us in the early days. I'm damm proud. 

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Well hell I should be praised I saved my Cord from some restorer getting it.  Of course you won't be able to praise me too long as Ill probably sell it to a restorer so it gets done instead of lingers,  though I will say,  it's probably not going to hell in it's current dry heated storage. 

I do get it, you are only the mediator not the one who squirreled everything away.  Part of my reference was to the Packard Tow truck in the delapitated shed.  The hoard of cars in France with moss growing on them, etc.  

You are the one we see now with them so you are the only one we can express frustration toward.  Lots were only saved in the sense that they weren't crushed. Many will probably never be restored now due to their degree of decompostion. 

 

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I wonder what the plan for the future, 20 years, 50 years, and beyond. The structure does seem to be well-built and might be standing long after the less-valuable cars are deteriorated beyond the interest of potential restorers. Too bad they didn't install a concrete floor.

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Too bad they didn't install a concrete floor.

 
 
sometimes the choice is between the garage or the cars..........................
 
Ill take my chances on owning the cars!

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1 hour ago, mercer09 said:

Too bad they didn't install a concrete floor.

 
 
sometimes the choice is between the garage or the cars..........................
 
Ill take my chances on owning the cars!

  The main building does have a solid concrete floor. Here are a few photos of the well protected cars. See? Not all our stuff is rusted out junk in the woods. The gravel areas are not as bad as some may think. We used to put down coal and ash on top of the gravel which did a great job of soaking up any moisture. Try it because it works if you have a damp area. 

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 This area is all concrete flooring, although these cars are pretty much walled in now as well due to an addition which I would have to remove a main wall to get them out. The cars in this area are still in excellent condition today. They look like they could start up and drive right out although the cars in these photos have not moved in many years. I keep them wiped down and the tires up. That purple door behind the BP sign opens up down stairs to another walled in area with mostly 20s and teens cars on a gravel floor but it's still a dry area.

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