Terry Wiegand

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In the interest of moving forward, I want to get the speedometer head installed back into the dashboard.  Several years ago I traded the original unit to the car to Russ Furstnow for this one.  It is the same unit with the exception that this one has the light colored face.  Russ had completely gone through this one and he told me that this one was one of the best ones of these that he had ever came across.  We did our swap at the Chickasha Swap Meet and I had him set the odometer to the same mileage that was on the original head.  I also had him go through the flexible cable and check to make sure that all of the chain links would operate as they should.  I should have the swivel unit mounted back on the front axle maybe on Friday.  It has just been so blasted hot here that a person doesn't feel like getting out in the heat.  I will post some photos when that is done.

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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I'm still trying to keep moving forward with things on this car.  Here is a photo of the period accessory dash clock.  This is a porcelain-faced Sessions clock and from what I have been able to find out this was a modestly expensive timepiece back in the day.  I have had it cleaned and calibrated and it keeps accurate time for being over 100 years old.  Having its mounting base removed from the dash panel allowed for polishing out the dash.

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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I spoke with the shop manager at Abrahams Machine Service in Davenport, Iowa this afternoon.  He told me that they will be starting on my engine next week.  I am going to go up after they have everything disassembled and cleaned to get photos.  This will be the first time that this engine has been opened up in 104 years.  I can personally account for the last 56 years that nothing has been done with this engine.  I will post photos when I get them.

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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One has to keep moving forward or nothing gets done.  I spoke with the shop manager at Abrahams yesterday morning and got a dose of good news and some not so good news to go along with it.  The good news is the engine has been completely disassembled and waiting for cleaning.  The bad news is that a small crack was discovered in the #6 cylinder wall.  When the cracks in the water jacket were repaired they pressure tested the block at 45 psi with no reported problems.  The guys at the shop feel that since this engine has set so long without coolant, the crack has simply rusted shut and did not expose itself under pressure.  ALL of the cylinder walls were ultrasound tested for wall thicknesses and then Magnafluxed for any signs of additional cracking.  They were able to determine that the #6 cylinder was the only problem area.  The guys told me that this crack was more than likely NOT related to a coolant freezing situation.  It is the farthest cylinder from the radiator and would suffer from overheating quicker than the others.  There is adequate wall thickness to  bore and sleeve the cylinder and end up with uniform bore diameters on all cylinders, so this is the route we will be taking - only a minor setback I gotta keep telling myself.  I asked Dave how the oil pan looked after setting all these years. His answer was "Not too bad".  I told him that my Dad always run Marvel Mystery Oil in any engine that he owned.  His reply was - good stuff.  I hope to make a quick run up and get photos after everything is all cleaned up.  The rods and crankcase will be taken down to St. Louis to have new bearings poured.  We are optimistic that the engine will be coming home sometime around Thanksgiving.  More photos to come and updates as I get them.

 

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South Hutchinson, Kansas 

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This is a good time for an update on the engine rebuild progress.  I made a trip to Davenport, Iowa on 09/11 to talk with the guys at the shop and get some photos of everything while the engine is torn down.  They have gone through the oil pump and I was told that the gears looked really good and the bottom plate took minimal lapping to bring it back to where it should be.  The crankshaft has been MagnaFluxed and it is good in that respect.  The rod journals are in not that great of shape and likewise for the mains.  The main bearings and rod bearings are going to be sent out for the pouring of new Babbitt material.  The wrist pins will be able to be reused in the new Ross Aluminum Pistons.  The #6 cylinder will have to be sleeved to take care of the crack situation.  The front and rear camshaft bearings are in really decent condition, however, the two middle bearings will have to be replaced.  Try and figure that one out.  The camshaft has been checked and micro-polished, so nothing to do there but install.  All of the roller lifter assemblies are new.  All of the valve cages have been rebuilt with new stainless valves and new springs.  The rocker posts have new shafts and new bushings.  The pushrods are all new.  The starter/generator unit has been rebuilt.  The water pump has been rebuilt.  The manifolds have been ceramic coated.  With all of that said - here are some photos.  Almost forgot this detail - the oil pump drive spring is going to be made new.  There was an issue with the original spring that made reusing it not safe.  The one photo will show that.

 

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South Hutchinson, Kansas 

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On 9/13/2019 at 10:08 PM, Terry Wiegand said:

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I guess I have to ask since all I see is a 100 year old spring (and it looks just like every spring I’ve seen on my car) - What is the issue here that makes reusing it not safe?

 

Granted, my coworkers have been badgering me to see an eye Dr. for 2 years since I can’t see the ‘burn’ on cutting tools anymore....

 

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Ben,

Look at where the curve goes into the straight and you will see where the wire has a worn spot almost halfway through it.  It might be OK to use as is, but if the wire were to break, then the oil pump function would be lost and could potentially destroy the engine.  I would rather be safe than sorry with this situation.  I am having a new spring made as I write this.

 

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South Hutchinson, Kansas

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I need to get some more photos posted so that folks won't think that we're sleeping on the job.  The gasoline tank came back from Linings, Inc. out in Ravenna, Ohio.  The ReNu Ceramic Lining process is really the way to go with something like this in my humble opinion.  They really did a good job in straightening out most of the dents and dings.  It's off to the paint shop next.  I will let everyone know exactly what paint is used.  It has to be something that will be resistant to this ethanol crap.  One of the pistons, the rings for it, and the wrist pin were delivered to Ross Racing Pistons yesterday.  I should have the new oil pump drive spring in about two weeks.

 

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Time for another update.  The gasoline tank is at the paint shop.  Ross Pistons shipped the new ones to Davenport last week and they will have them on Tuesday (10/22).  I spoke with the shop manager at Abrahams on Thursday to let him know that the pistons were on their way to them.  He told me that they "were dead in the water" waiting on pistons and bearings.  They sent the bearing shells down to St. Louis to have new Babbitt poured and they are looking for them to come back any day now also.  This is really good news.  I think that there is a pretty good chance that we might be bringing the engine back home sometime around Thanksgiving.  Will keep everyone up to date on the progress.

 

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South Hutchinson, Kansas

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Here is another update.  I took the Oil Sight Gauge in the dashboard apart for cleaning.  I am going to use O-Rings on each side of the glass lens to keep everything oil tight.  I sent the headlight reflectors to Frank Mance Plating in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for re-silvering.  They will be coming back home in the next week to 10 days.  Things like these help keep the project moving forward.

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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The headlight reflectors came back on Saturday and I am very pleased with the result.  Larry DiBarry told me about Frank Mance Plating in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and they did the job for me.  When they got them the one fellow called me and told me that these particular reflectors were some of the nicest ones that they had seen in a very long time.  I asked about that and he told me that since these things are formed using really thin Brass, most of the time there will be stress cracks develop and then they need to be soldered before the Silvering.  He said that there was not one crack in either of them.  The next thing to be taken care of is getting the headlight buckets and mounting forks blasted and painted.

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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Another thing that is almost completed is the dashboard mounted Oil Sight Gauge.   In the above photo, one can see how 100+ years of gunk took its toll on the appearance.  I took it completely apart and thoroughly cleaned it and the difference is staggering to say the least.  I still need to polish out the face of the body before it goes back together and back into the dashboard.  

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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 Just an update on today's activities with "Remley".

I had hoped on getting everything back together to get the car started and back on the road again after 2 years.

Again, "Remley" the 1925 Master was a fluke as my friend who helped me get it running for the family in 2013 offered on it. When it came to me in 2016 I was planning on selling my 1925 Standard "Beulah", to put some good money into the Master. Right off the bat, (to me) it seemed as a better fit for us and the car wanted to fly! Much more powerful than our model 25. But the engine issues had started in the model 25 and I knew it was a full rebuild or sell it for a huge loss. In the meantime we could drive the Master and have fun with it while picking away at things to keep it roadworthy. "Best laid plans" you know....Of course that all changed about a month after we sent the engine of the Md. 25 out for rebuild. When the Master timing gear went out. So I had been hoping to just get things back together again to get some more fun out of it without a big expenditure.... I was mistaken...

Last week I had taken the radiator out to be checked and today the bad news. The 1970s modern re core is leaking badly. "Do you have another one since the bottom tank is cracked and slathered with much solder". (Harrison #195) No problem I thought. I had bought a 1924 radiator and shell at Hershey in 2017.

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(Harrison #192) It seemed not to have as much rust out at the bottom but still needed some metal repair. I knew that the core was useless since it was pretty scarred up. I had bought it as a more salvageable shell. The bottom tank on this radiator is caved in at the drain cock.

DSCF7877.thumb.JPG.498db2f74d02430646fd330502cc0e01.JPG I will Now I will take this radiator to my "Guy" to confer. My gut tells me he will not fool with it and I still will need a better radiator/tanks to re core. He quoted me for a modern core @ about $1,000 !!!!! I have to check with Jon Henry since I think he had a decent one at Hershey in 2018.

It's only $$$$$$.

 One issue is that there is a world of difference on how these 2 radiators are mounted in the shroud/frame. The 1924 (Harrison #192) is just about soldered at all points around the sides and the top mounting face including the top radiator support rod bracket to the top tank.

DSCF7876.thumb.JPG.873f78807d1e5dae8813a8d1b9e50491.JPGThe 1925 (Harrison #195) has a 4 small points spotted places to a more removeable shroud /frame. Much more comparable to my 1925 Standards mounting.

So right now I am deciding to be in for a penny or in for a pound!

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