cevensky

1948 Pontiac Streamliner 8

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I went ahead and have decided on Bill Hirsch’s engine color. But no word from the machine shop yet other than it’s a good block.

I’m going to work more on the lucite wings.  Remove and sand them with acetone added in the mix? Just a light sand with acetone improved things. Also some masking tape and red and black paint has things looking sharp on the chrome (And a little more engine bay clean up)

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I stopped into the shop to talk about my engine. The parts kit is $1400ish which is good and turns out labor isn’t going to even be half of what I was expecting. He knows I’m a student and is working with me massively on that, but he said they’ll do the rest of the work in winter when his guys aren’t as busy. I can’t complain. 

Meanwhile, I tried out my new engine enamel and painted the transmission.

 

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Kib, according to Bill Hirsch (who I assume has researched it), yes. 

In addition, I found paint very close to this color while cleaning the trans for paint. I’m unsure if the side cover and oil pan were black, but I liked the look and wanted to be sparing with the expensive enamel. 

A few things like the oil pan plug will be painted red too, for visibility and aesthetics.

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On 9/14/2019 at 8:30 PM, cevensky said:

I went ahead and have decided on Bill Hirsch’s engine color

 

I went with Bill's engine color too. You won't be disappointed. I brushed it on and it flowed awesome. 2 years and still looks good. Mine was originally that light blue. Didn't like it. The dark green had to grow on me but I love the black/green contrast now. Good job on your retore!

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Kib, nice work. I wish I could take it all apart and clean the frame and whatnot, but I don’t want to take forever. Where’d you source that exhaust from? 
Let me know if you need any engine parts. I have manifolds, carb, distributor, etc. all in pretty good shape. 

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Hi, just what I am feeling now, take forewer ;)

I got also a lot of engine parts struggeling to find new metal parts for the floor brackets, guess they have to be made.

The exhaust I bougth form a guy restoring a 47 model, not sure wher he got it but I could see, there are some stamps on the pipes.

The chassi look like this and it the same one as yours.

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Can you tell me what the number are on top of your engine? I see some with numbers and some without and mine are different. I'm not a mechanic and I have typed in everything possible. Also do you have a good photo of your heater? All books say it should be under the seat? and nowhere can I find one that looks exactly like mine.... but I've been told I should keep it because it is original... My heater is located under the glovebox and about a cubic foot ( little less)

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Hi, here are too pictures from mine, one og the motor and under the drivers seat.

The heater I got in another garage, but will find a photo of it for you. I think the engine numbers are the same.

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These are great photos, however the top only shows what I think is the "intake" for the air to the heater. and the bottom shows the same plate( access plate, maybe). Have you ever seen a  heater like mine? Is it an aftermarket or maybe for a different make?

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That heater says "Allstate DeLuxe" on it, making it a Sears heater, and not original, although the original owner could have had it put in. I would just leave it there and use it. If it is a points restoration you might have to get rid of it.

 

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Jeff: the best picture I have of my head number is in this thread. Page 1 I think. Your heater is obviously aftermarket, I still have an original, still functional as far as I can tell

my engine will be back before the new year (I hope). I’ve got everything I need to fire it up. Y’all pray over my hydramatic working with nothing more than some new paint on it. I’ve bought cloth covered wire to make a little bit of harness to get me going, along with all new break cylinders and flex hoses.

I’ll update on the next development, should be fun. 

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Thanks a ton, Now I know what I'm looking for or at. Strange how none not even the  "48 Fisher body or Motors manula say much about this. Now onto looking for the correct lit. 

    Since my car is a "deluxe"- shouldn't it have come with a heater? "BLOO" says my heater is from Sears and may have been installed later.

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I dont know about 1948 specifically but in 1936 heaters were optional. My car doesn't have one. Admittedly it's not a deluxe, but deluxe wouldn't have got you a heater in 1936 as standard equipment. It would have got you independent front suspension and some brown dash knobs.

 

On some makes and models heaters were optional into the late 60s and maybe longer.

 

Non-factory heaters in old cars are pretty common. Allstate was a Sears trademark in those days for their automotive stuff (tires, batteries, accessories). You could date the heater if you could find some old Sears catalogs. Unfortunately I don't think the catalogs are online anymore, other than Christmas "Wish Books" that probably don't include auto parts. Maybe a Library?

 

It boils down to what you are going to do with the car. If it is going to be a showcar, you have to get rid of it. They would have punched holes in the firewall to mount it, and to get the hoses through. You would have to patch that. My cars are all drivers, and if it were mine I would keep it if it can be made to work. It is a nice looking piece. It sure looks in-period to me. The guy who bought that car new might very well have driven it across the street to Sears and bought a heater for less money than the dealer wanted.

 

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One question.. If the stock heater is under the seat in 1948, how did they handle defrost?

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Bloo, as far as I can tell in mine, the blower is under the driver’s fender and there’s a control box under the radio. There’s vents that are controlled there that divert the warmed air into the vents on the windshield. I think what opens under the seat is the cabin heater. Anyway, this is not a thread about heaters. What I have is stock, follow along in the future to see what I have after my engine is installed and I’m on the road! 

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2 questions- When you get around to the heater- can you post or send me photos. and Do you how to breakdown/cypher the number on top of the engine. Mine are 572121  (0)maybe  with a GM2.

   the no. I think is "0" is bigger than the one that looks like a screw. It could be a 9.

 

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Today I went to pay for and pick up my engine. Ouch. But it’s done and paid for. I’ve been painting bolt-ons and getting everything ready to put this thing in. Today I worked more on getting the master cylinder out, I’ll finish that tomorrow. The engine is now painted and everything is masked off waiting to receive plugs, manifolds, carb, etc. The engine shop lost one of my flywheel bolts so they have one hostage while they make one. Tomorrow after I get that, the engine and trans go together and in (after a fluid fill up). 

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I hope that engine runs as good as it looks!! Congratulations for this big milestone.

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On 12/22/2019 at 1:16 PM, jeff53 said:

Thanks a ton, Now I know what I'm looking for or at. Strange how none not even the  "48 Fisher body or Motors manula say much about this. Now onto looking for the correct lit. 

    Since my car is a "deluxe"- shouldn't it have come with a heater? "BLOO" says my heater is from Sears and may have been installed later.

standard or deluxe model has to do with outside and inside trim and upholstery choices, the under seat heater was never standard no extra cost equipment until the 1957 Pontiac Bonneville convertibles were built. Harrison made heater was original accessory, the allstate heater is a aftermarket part, like was mention through sears automotive center or through catalog sales. 

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3 hours ago, cevensky said:

Today I went to pay for and pick up my engine. Ouch. But it’s done and paid for. I’ve been painting bolt-ons and getting everything ready to put this thing in. Today I worked more on getting the master cylinder out, I’ll finish that tomorrow. The engine is now painted and everything is masked off waiting to receive plugs, manifolds, carb, etc. The engine shop lost one of my flywheel bolts so they have one hostage while they make one. Tomorrow after I get that, the engine and trans go together and in (after a fluid fill up). 

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excellent engine paint job, correct color too, note - the valve covers get the same paint.

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