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23 hours ago, alsancle said:

 

Given the results of the fully restored club sedan at Pebble,  this could be a hard car to sell.

Agreed, plus the car will just not be anything you or it wants to be in the current colors matched to the wood wheels being just the worst of worst (ghosts of Christmas pasts and ...) - all be it both very fixable issues given a large billfold. 

 

And, for those reading that may take this the wrong way - Certain things from the boxcar school of design are very elegant, though there is a certain reason(s) someone buys these kind of cars and one reason is not for them to loose on show fields (the competition is just too steep for any car not at its best).  And, sure it will make someone a nice car as is, the problem is they would just have to be happy with it as is matched to not expecting the same issues to go away upon any next sale.

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The town car is being advertised using the auction pictures in Hemmings. 

 

 

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/cunningham/unspecified/2329184.html

 

 

Seller’s Description:

A 1930 Cunningham V7 towncar barnyard find! This is a wonderful example of this rare car. The large, luxurious and expensive 8 cylinder series V7. This model was the last production car made by Cunningham. James Cunningham, Sons and Company manufactured high quality carriages before making the transition to horseless vehicles. The V7 series, one of its most successful, was so expensive at the time, only the very wealthy could afford to buy this car. Originally built for Mr. Abraham Baer, this 1930 Cunningham has sat untouched indoors in a southern California warehouse since 1985. Engine type: V8Displacement: 442 cu. in.Power Rating: 106 HorsepowerTransmission: 3 speed manualChassis: Mechanical brakes

This car is in excellent condition and drives perfectly. The owner has kept this car untouched in his warehouse since May of 1985, only driving it one time for a parade. The owner is guaranteeing this car will start and run upon pickup. The car is located in the Southern California Mohave dry desert and has been kept indoors the entire time the current owner has had it in his possession. This Cunningham V-7 has 21,965 original miles.

 

 

Price: $777,777 obo

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To ask that amount, it would have been worth a weekend's effort to thoroughly clean it up inside and out, and then park it either on a nice patch of grass, or in front of a stately home that was built in that era, and take some professional photos of it, over photographing it 'as found' in a dingy old warehouse.  Presentation is everything.

 

Craig

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3 hours ago, alsancle said:

To ask that amount of money they should fill the back seat with gold bullion.

I thought a very very generous 45K was about the right price. 

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3 hours ago, 8E45E said:

To ask that amount, it would have been worth a weekend's effort to thoroughly clean it up inside and out, and then park it either on a nice patch of grass, or in front of a stately home that was built in that era, and take some professional photos of it, over photographing it 'as found' in a dingy old warehouse.  Presentation is everything.

 

Craig

You buy a formal razor edge town car to win at Concours events and this car just will not do that in current colors matched to wooden wheels that do zippo for it, plus a restoration that is probably not capable of such. 

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99% sure price is an error as this was posted elsewhere for sale, I remember car and description, for significantly less, in fact less than $45k.  It will come to me... 🤔

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33 minutes ago, Steve_Mack_CT said:

99% sure price is an error as this was posted elsewhere for sale, I remember car and description, for significantly less, in fact less than $45k.  It will come to me... 🤔


The original auction bidding was very low which might be what you are remembering.

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Interesting car......that if you gave it to me for free, I would be in over my head in time and parts sorting it to it’s best possible running and driving condition. At 20k, I would pass. 

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For whatever reason I watched the live bidding on the car and it got up to $375k which didn't meet reserve so they passed on the lot.  I was shocked that the bidding made it that high.

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2 hours ago, kfle said:

For whatever reason I watched the live bidding on the car and it got up to $375k which didn't meet reserve so they passed on the lot.  I was shocked that the bidding made it that high.

I am thinking a generous soul perhaps "helped" the bidding along - Car has serious potential to win at Concours events (matched to be center of attention), but you would need to re-restore it and again the wood wheels do nothing for it and will not allow car to achieve what someone wants to via a razor edge formal towncar (which there are probably not 30 surviving cars of the body style across all marques).  In the famous word's of Don Peterson (West's dad") - "don't give award to ugly cars."

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Cunningham’s are interesting and fun cars.......the only problem is they take up room in the garage, and most of them cost money. Garage space and time usually far exceeds 99 percent of the surviving cars asking price. They were on my bucket list to one for many years. After working on them and driving a few, they have been removed from the list. There are too many interesting cars for less money that are more drivable and useful TO ME. I still like them, just don’t want to own one. 

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1 hour ago, edinmass said:

Cunningham’s are interesting and fun cars.......the only problem is they take up room in the garage, and most of them cost money. Garage space and time usually far exceeds 99 percent of the surviving cars asking price. They were on my bucket list to one for many years. After working on them and driving a few, they have been removed from the list. There are too many interesting cars for less money that are more drivable and useful TO ME. I still like them, just don’t want to own one. 

Yes, my belief is that this car is the perfect garage queen and show field queen, cool engineering for the time too,  but if you had a number of cars in the garage it  probably would be far from your favorite for touring. The RR PI was sort of that way in a car for me - every time I ran it dad just rolled his eyes and said he did not want to hear me gripe about it complexity when I had to work on it (he was very kind to hold the shop light and to help me gets parts to and from the machinest, but not a day when by that he did not say;  "Lovely car, let it be a lovely car for someone else"). 

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