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Hi Matt,

In the early days it was Canada Cycles and Motor Company. This poor quality advert shows the names of all dealers in each state.

 

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Not sure what transpired once Chrysler took over in 1928 but Canada Cycles were still going in 1960.

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Yes, Canada Cycles it is.

 

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however despite owning a 1919 tourer originally owned by a salesman working there in 1919 I have never seen a Canada Cycles dash plate.

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6 hours ago, Minibago said:

Yes, Canada Cycles it is.

 

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however despite owning a 1919 tourer originally owned by a salesman working there in 1919 I have never seen a Canada Cycles dash plate.

Thanks for that it’s great info. I haven’t seen any dealers written on the plates. I know my car spent a lot of it’s life in Brighton East. Still had a 5 number phone number on the door. 
So I might just go with them thank you. 

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Hi Matt,

This is the plate on my 1917 Roadster. 

 

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With your talents I am sure you could make one with the correct Canada Cycle info on it.

Let me know if you need some dimension information.

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The one I posted was for the earliest Dodge Brothers cars sold through Cheney in Adelaide. Cheney was the Sales Manager for Ford Dealer Duncan and Fraser before becoming the very first Dodge Brothers dealer in Australia starting in 1916 and when he left, the company became Waymouth Motors.

He moved to Melbourne in 1920 and took up the Chevrolet dealership.

I thought you might like to make a plate for Canada Cycle and Motor Co using the similar layout.

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19 minutes ago, Minibago said:

The one I posted was for the earliest Dodge Brothers cars sold through Cheney in Adelaide. Cheney was the Sales Manager for Ford Dealer Duncan and Fraser before becoming the very first Dodge Brothers dealer in Australia starting in 1916 and when he left, the company became Waymouth Motors.

He moved to Melbourne in 1920 and took up the Chevrolet dealership.

I thought you might like to make a plate for Canada Cycle and Motor Co using the similar layout.

Interesting, thanks! Yes, would be cool to get a Canada Cycle one made for our Vic Dodges:). My dash has two holes so I think it would be the oval type badge.  Did you have any holes in your dash Matt?

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I bought a plate from Myers that goes on the toe board. I don’t think the victory’s had one on the dash. 
Making a brass plate like that you would have to get it cnc routered out. 
A friend of mine that does my stickers has one I should run it past him. 
Thanks for all the info guys. 

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7 hours ago, Minibago said:

The one I posted was for the earliest Dodge Brothers cars sold through Cheney in Adelaide. Cheney was the Sales Manager for Ford Dealer Duncan and Fraser before becoming the very first Dodge Brothers dealer in Australia starting in 1916 and when he left, the company became Waymouth Motors.

He moved to Melbourne in 1920 and took up the Chevrolet dealership.

I thought you might like to make a plate for Canada Cycle and Motor Co using the similar layout.

I wonder if Cheney is now part of the Patterson Cheney group , they own half the dealerships in Melbourne. 
They have been around since 1915. 

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Yes, the same Cheney although he is no longer with us.

The S.A. Cheney history is fascinating, it just shows what you can do with skill and bucket loads of persistence and a strong self belief.

 

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16 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

I bought a plate from Myers that goes on the toe board. I don’t think the victory’s had one on the dash. 
Making a brass plate like that you would have to get it cnc routered out. 
A friend of mine that does my stickers has one I should run it past him. 
Thanks for all the info guys. 

I think they can acid etch them too, don’t know exactly how but think they use a negative sticker and let the acid eat away the rest?  Not sure if anyone who does it here though.

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Bit more done and another question…

 

Spare wheel carrier back on.

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Front seat back nailed in place.  How does the front seat back spring frame attach?  Does it just attach to the top wood and hang down against the metal back frame or should there be some vertical wood strips for attachment?

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Also, there aren’t any attachment points on the spring frame - would they just attach with a metal p clip?

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Had a Speedo cable made locally, gave them the length and the ends and they did a great job.  I was worried it may look a bit modern with plastic covering, yellow zinc etc (as that’s what they mainly do) but it came up great, very close to original I think (although didn’t have one to copy).

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Rich

Kevin BC here

The rear seat squab I believe should be mounted hinged at the bottom to the floor, with a stud tag at the top centre to clip to the rear rail, as the side curtains when not in use , are supposed to reside in that cavity I have been told. Some one may have more info on this subject. I believe this would be correct , because "Where else could they fit on a nice sunny day with the roof down, with the Aussie breeze in your hair, might help get the Covid germs ???

I havent, actually seen it on a tourer, but the rear seat in my 1930 DC Dodge  was mounted this way on a wooden riser about 100mm long with the hinge attached to it, and stud secured at the top. I dont know if it was intended as a space to keep some tools or other bits and pieces for a sedan. Ill see if I have a photo of the mount

 

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Picked up some more bits from Matt today and they look amazing.

 

still some adjustments to do but couldn’t resist getting the doors back on so I could see what it looks like.


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4 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

She’s looking beautiful Rich. 👌

Bonnet????

I know it’s been painted 😂

I don’t go at your pace mate!  Finished the doors off today - took a little time fitting the anti rattle strikers.

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just finishing up and putting the door handles back together and the last one snapped.  Not sure why as I didn’t have any force on the handle - was peening the shaft and the end just pinged off.  I think it’s pot metal so not sure if I can weld it?

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also fitted the Speedo cable - I think this is where it goes through the floor as there was a small cut out in the metal plate by the brake pedal.

 

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You’ve been pretty busy though by the looks of all that. You do a much nicer job than me mate. 
That’s a shame about that handle they seemed to be perfect didn’t they. We might be able to tig weld it. I’m not sure about that stuff it will probably just blow apart. 
what if you drill it out an put a pin in it. 
She’s looking perfect mate 👌

 

Even the screw police will be happy with all that. 😂

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Rich, that looks perfect. Can't speak for Ron but you did good on the screws, not like the screw butcher. The color green looks perfect for this car.  Will it get pin striped and if so what color. I think a mint green would look good. Back to the dash plaques that were brass. MANY years ago someone gave the process on here how that is done. It is acid etched. I am sure with some research on the web it cold be found. 

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7 minutes ago, nearchoclatetown said:

Rich, that looks perfect. Can't speak for Ron but you did good on the screws, not like the screw butcher. The color green looks perfect for this car.  Will it get pin striped and if so what color. I think a mint green would look good. Back to the dash plaques that were brass. MANY years ago someone gave the process on here how that is done. It is acid etched. I am sure with some research on the web it cold be found. 

Thanks!  We’ve given it a single gold pinstripe on the top bead.  It’s quite thin so hard to see in the photos but it looks good in daylight.

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Matt will be happy, bonnet/hood is back on.  Looks great Matt although still need to spend some time getting it to line up properly.

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A lovely rear end, nice to see it looking like a car again!

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Working on the wiring today.  Had to fix up the headlights so they had the correct fittings that allow the focus adjustment and also allow the quick connect to the rear of the light.

 

Found a short inside the cable to the headlights - not sure how it got there but have to fix it up.  Just need to get some nice conduit to go in the sections between the lights and radiator.

 

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Finished of the wiring and connecting up the lights - I think I need to do Matt’s conversion as they aren’t that bright!

 

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Started looking at the trim but couldn’t bring my self to fit any and cover up the wood!

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17 minutes ago, RichBad said:

Finished of the wiring and connecting up the lights - I think I need to do Matt’s conversion as they aren’t that bright!

 

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Started looking at the trim but couldn’t bring my self to fit any and cover up the wood!

I was surprised how well they actually work in our headlamps Rich. They give out more than enough light in comparison. 

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Big moment on the weekend.  Finished off mounting all the body parts (although still need to line up the bonnet properly and fit the catches) and fired her up.  She looks fantastic in the sun - Matt, you did an amazing job with that paint!

 

Even took her for a short drive up the road - so different now, no movement, squeaks or rattles from the body and the doors don't open them selves when turning a tight corner!  Next step trim (although I don't want to cover the wood up:))

 

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7 hours ago, Ron Lawson said:

She looks a million bucks Rich I am so sorry cobber but you will have to cover the wood work All you need now is a pair of bumper bars for her

Yea, not sure about that - I’ve always liked the look of 20s cars without bumpers.  Will have to try and find some and see what she looks like.

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Have I ever said I love the color? It looks like it belongs there. The club has literature on accessory bumpers, they were optional. They were available in black or nickel. I think they were $6 and $8 each just to give you an idea what Matt should be charging. This is one car I think would look great with black bumpers. I have no bumpers on my cars either, but some look better with them. 

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