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Are you making patterns or plans as you go or would all the bodies be a little bit different?

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9 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

Are you making patterns or plans as you go or would all the bodies be a little bit different?

Thanks Matt!

I’ve been taking measurements and was going to do some patterns after the final fit when I’ve got everything right.  I think they varied a little between body builders (mine is Holden, there is also TJ Richards and maybe a few others).  I’m pretty sure the main body is identical between the 4s and the standard 6.  All the info I’ve been able to find so far supports this.

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Rubber bumpers are what I call them. The are on the door post.. I bought them from Steeles Rubber seals. Beautiful. The brass jams for the door locks and the brass  guide I bought from Myers Early Dodge, Reproductions from Australia. If you have any white metal (pot) you would like to replace just send them ,even pieces to Cindy Meyers . She will send them to "Reproduction" in Australia. The do most in stainless steel. The water jacket for the 28 DB is also reproduced . Transaction must go through Myers Early Dodge. Cindy has a beautiful website, No scam here.     

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Slow going but moving forward.  Trying to get the rear tub finished up then I can make the doors fit in between the tub and scuttle.  Not a straight line in it which doesn’t help!

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Looking good so far.  Do you have a special machine to make the finger joints?

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7 hours ago, MikeC5 said:

Looking good so far.  Do you have a special machine to make the finger joints?

Just a router with a special bit - will take a photo.

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On 9/8/2019 at 8:00 PM, Mattml430 said:

Are you making patterns or plans as you go or would all the bodies be a little bit different?

Even a large manufacturer like Fisher had pieces that were a little bit different on the same car, sometimes not a mirror image from left to right.  Original finger joints in my '30 Pontiac which are tapered were sometimes forced together enough to spread the outer fingers, making one side roof rail shorter than the other except at the next joint back the fingers were not pushed in tight and two wood screws were driven through the joint, one from the top and one from the bottom.  The outside curve is different from left to right.  Wood in hidden places was really not planed or sanded in any way.

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On 9/30/2019 at 7:57 PM, Mattml430 said:

The back section and corner is looking good mate. 

Thanks! Got the other side finished today - much easier than the first.

 

Mike, photo below of the router attachment I used for the finger joints.

 

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I replaced all the woodwork with steel when I did the restoration on my ‘23. The wood was doing my head in. Am I a bad person?

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12 hours ago, MikeC5 said:

Nice! Those are going to be strong joints.  

Hopefully:) can’t be worse than what it had before!

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2 hours ago, John McEwan said:

I replaced all the woodwork with steel when I did the restoration on my ‘23. The wood was doing my head in. Am I a bad person?

Where’s the fun in that:). Although my head is past done in!  But I am learning something new. 

 

Also so needed something to staple the trim to:)

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Slow progress, but progress none the less.  Almost finished the rear end, just need to complete the bottom half of the dog legs.  Not so easy as the metalwork had been repaired in the past so I had nothing to work to as a correct pattern.  Think I’ve figured it out but those curved pieces of wood aren’t easy - especially the joint to the vertical part.

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Dog legs done on both sides (man they were hard).  Tongue and groove made for rear floor and fitted. Roughed out out one rear door now on to the other side doors.

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The support brackets between the doors are the same as the ones on my Senior  Is there timber under the front lip of the bulkhead ?There is on mine and lucky for me I had one to copy from  There are so many bits on your frame that are similar to my one  Its looking great  The way you are going she will be on the road in no time 

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Thanks Ron.  Yup, there is timber under the front lip of the bulkhead - was a real pain in the a to make a new one - curved in every direction with finger joints half way through the curve!  have got them sorted now thank god. Has been one of the hardest bits making that piece, then getting it to attach to the dash wood and the front A pillars with a screw going through all three and the windscreen support bracket.

I think the wood work is identical to the 6s - Holden bodied.  It's a good reminder to post some updates:)

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Time for a few updates - has been lots more done since last post.

 

Doors roughed out on the other side

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Posted (edited)

Making the wood that goes under the scuttle was a pain - it tucks in behind a lip and curves in every direction as well as having a finger joint mid curve.

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Gluing the finger joints using the dash support as a template (this also screws to the back of the under scuttle strip.

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Finished and attached to the dash support panel - old one was in pretty poor shape.  Despite being pretty knackered, I think it was the only original piece of wood on the car.

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Fitted to the scuttle to match to the A pillars and drill the windscreen support bracket holes.

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Close up showing the A pillar to dash support and scuttle strip - lots of pieces jointed to each other.

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Bolted up to the windscreen support bracket.

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Posted (edited)

Starting on the last major piece of wood work - the front seat top support.  I've been staying away from this as it looks like a big pain - has to match the seat back (which has curves in both directions and folded top edge) and also match both of the B Pillars which angle outwards front to back and bottom to top.

 

Needed to repair the seat back first as the bottom edge was quite rusted.

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Started out with making the pieces to attach to each of the B pillars.

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Then made the main rear strip

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Then cut the ends to match the main cross piece

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Screwed and glued and sanded to shape

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Finished - adds quite a bit of strength to the B pillars

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Adding the trim strips to the inner B pillar.  these are used to attach the front seat trim.

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Seat back lower support - much easier than the top one!

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Posted (edited)

Wow!! Your flying along with it now mate it’s looking incredible. 
Those doors will close with a beautiful solid thud. 

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