1927/1928 Tourer body

[RichBad 211]

Hi all,

 

I’ve almost finished the engine and running gear so time to start on the body.  The body was in pretty good shape and solid with no rust but taking a look underneath some of the wood work looks like it’s been replaced and not very well.

 

Problem is I don’t know what’s right and what’s wrong so before I get too far in I wanted to see if anyone has anything similar on theirs - some pics below:

LHS bottom edge by door pillar - protruding like that doesn’t seem right to me but maybe that’s how they were?

LHS lower edge from front door looking forward - I would have thought the wood would fill out to the side?

Under the scuttle

LHS front foot well

LHS rear wheel arch area - seem to be a few bits of wood here that don’t look right.

 

many thanks:)

[robert b 84]

Richard I will have a talk to you

[RichBad 211]

Anyone have some photos of the door pillars - in particular the strips that the doors close against - for a 1927/28 tourer?

[Mattml430 190]

9 hours ago, RichBad said:

Anyone have some photos of the door pillars - in particular the strips that the doors close against - for a 1927/28 tourer?

Might be worth contacting these guys to see if they can point you in the rite direction. 

https://fordwood.com/index.html

[Mattml430 190]

You may of already come across these pics. They are a little older but let’s you see with the body off. 

 

[nearchoclatetown 120]

Rich, this is a TJ Richards body isn't it?  If a US car you may want to look through the Budd pictures on the DBC website. 

[RichBad 211]

Thanks Matt, I hadn’t seen that so helps to give me an idea of what’s under the skin.  I think the later ones may be a bit different or perhaps the differences are more between the different builders.

[RichBad 211]

6 hours ago, nearchoclatetown said:

Rich, this is a TJ Richards body isn't it?  If a US car you may want to look through the Budd pictures on the DBC website. 

Thanks - Mine is definitely an Australian Body not a Budd and from what Bob told me it’s almost definitely a Holden Body.

[RichBad 211]

13 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

Might be worth contacting these guys to see if they can point you in the rite direction. 

https://fordwood.com/index.html

Just seen that - will drop them a line.  Boy those Ford guys have it easy!

[John McEwan 30]

14 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

You may of already come across these pics. They are a little older but let’s you see with the body off. 

 

That’s a 1923. Same as mine.

[Mattml430 190]

1 hour ago, RichBad said:

Just seen that - will drop them a line.  Boy those Ford guys have it easy!

Yer don’t they!! 

They might know somebody that knows somebody. 

They do some great kits. 

[Jesse J 1]

On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 5:25 AM, Mattml430 said:

Might be worth contacting these guys to see if they can point you in the rite direction. 

https://fordwood.com/index.html

Dear Rich Bad,

I have some drawings made in the '90s which are very good reference drawings of timber work for a '28 fast four.  I am not too flash on forum stuff.  I hope you get the message.  Jesse

[RichBad 211]

Skin is off and the wood’s out.  Lots to do!

Edited July 1 by RichBad (see edit history)

[RichBad 211]

Working on a few bits of the body metal that were missing.  Made some rear door stops and some new door guides and rubber blocks but the guide contact pieces are being a bit of a challenge.  Made one but it hasn’t turned out too well.  Are the guide blocks/contacts a standard part used across models or are they unique to the late tourers?

2 old and 2 new door guides

 

New rear door stop

 

The door guide contact blocks and pads.  Bottom one is my attempt but not so good and I need another 5!

Edited July 9 by RichBad (see edit history)

[Mattml430 190]

Your being a bid hard on yourself there Richard. It doesn’t look to bad. 

What if you made a little die and pressed them. 

[Spinneyhill 1,416]

Rubber pad forming might do it. Make the female shape and press a plate into it with a lump of urethane in a short piece of pipe. Gary Ash showed us how, I think in the Technical forum, a year or two ago....

 

Here you go:

 

Edited July 9 by Spinneyhill (see edit history)

[RichBad 211]

Yup, think I need a die and may try that rubber method but at 0.040/1mm may be a bit thick for the rubber forming.

[RichBad 211]

With Matt’s great help we made a metal press tool and made a handful of door guides in no time.  They came up great.

 

Also, made some progress on the front door stops - put one fold in, then used the shrinker to get the curved shape correct and when done will put in the last fold.

 

Also have a pile of wood and have started on the main rails.

 

lots of progress - thanks for your help Matt!

 

 

[Mattml430 190]

Your welcome mate , looks like your making some good progress. It will start coming together now. 

[RichBad 211]

Main rails pretty much done, just need to finish the outer edges to the correct front to back curve.  Struggling with the scuttle but thanks to a few folks on here have some dimensions and photos so I know what it should look like.

There’s going to be quite a bit of work to get the lines right on the scuttle and the alignment with the bonnet and doors.

 

 

 

Edited July 18 by RichBad (see edit history)

[Mattml430 190]

Looking good mate. Making good progress. 

[Pete in PA 44]

Wow, I'm impressed with your work.  Suddenly my D2 project looks like a breeze compared to what you're doing.  What wood are you working with, ash?

[RichBad 211]

Thanks!  Victorian Ash - not quite as light or nice to work as European ash but probably what they used to use in Aus and it’s pretty easy to get hold of.

[RichBad 211]

Got the scuttle pretty much sorted and straight.  Finished the A pillars and attached to main frame.  B pillars done but not fitted.  Making progress slowly!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 8 by RichBad (see edit history)

[Mattml430 190]

It’s looking fabulous Rich. So much work getting that rite.