RichBad

1927/1928 Tourer body

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Hi all,

 

I’ve almost finished the engine and running gear so time to start on the body.  The body was in pretty good shape and solid with no rust but taking a look underneath some of the wood work looks like it’s been replaced and not very well.

 

Problem is I don’t know what’s right and what’s wrong so before I get too far in I wanted to see if anyone has anything similar on theirs - some pics below:

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LHS bottom edge by door pillar - protruding like that doesn’t seem right to me but maybe that’s how they were?

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LHS lower edge from front door looking forward - I would have thought the wood would fill out to the side?

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Under the scuttle

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LHS front foot well

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LHS rear wheel arch area - seem to be a few bits of wood here that don’t look right.

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many thanks:)

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Anyone have some photos of the door pillars - in particular the strips that the doors close against - for a 1927/28 tourer?

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9 hours ago, RichBad said:

Anyone have some photos of the door pillars - in particular the strips that the doors close against - for a 1927/28 tourer?

Might be worth contacting these guys to see if they can point you in the rite direction. 

https://fordwood.com/index.html

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You may of already come across these pics. They are a little older but let’s you see with the body off. 

 

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Thanks Matt, I hadn’t seen that so helps to give me an idea of what’s under the skin.  I think the later ones may be a bit different or perhaps the differences are more between the different builders.

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6 hours ago, nearchoclatetown said:

Rich, this is a TJ Richards body isn't it?  If a US car you may want to look through the Budd pictures on the DBC website. 

Thanks - Mine is definitely an Australian Body not a Budd and from what Bob told me it’s almost definitely a Holden Body.

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13 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

Might be worth contacting these guys to see if they can point you in the rite direction. 

https://fordwood.com/index.html

Just seen that - will drop them a line.  Boy those Ford guys have it easy!

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14 hours ago, Mattml430 said:

You may of already come across these pics. They are a little older but let’s you see with the body off. 

 

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That’s a 1923. Same as mine.

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1 hour ago, RichBad said:

Just seen that - will drop them a line.  Boy those Ford guys have it easy!

Yer don’t they!! 

They might know somebody that knows somebody. 

They do some great kits. 

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On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 5:25 AM, Mattml430 said:

Might be worth contacting these guys to see if they can point you in the rite direction. 

https://fordwood.com/index.html

Dear Rich Bad,

I have some drawings made in the '90s which are very good reference drawings of timber work for a '28 fast four.  I am not too flash on forum stuff.  I hope you get the message.  Jesse

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Posted (edited)

Working on a few bits of the body metal that were missing.  Made some rear door stops and some new door guides and rubber blocks but the guide contact pieces are being a bit of a challenge.  Made one but it hasn’t turned out too well.  Are the guide blocks/contacts a standard part used across models or are they unique to the late tourers?

2 old and 2 new door guides

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New rear door stop

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The door guide contact blocks and pads.  Bottom one is my attempt but not so good and I need another 5!

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Your being a bid hard on yourself there Richard. It doesn’t look to bad. 

What if you made a little die and pressed them. 

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Posted (edited)

Rubber pad forming might do it. Make the female shape and press a plate into it with a lump of urethane in a short piece of pipe. Gary Ash showed us how, I think in the Technical forum, a year or two ago....

 

Here you go:

 

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Yup, think I need a die and may try that rubber method but at 0.040/1mm may be a bit thick for the rubber forming.

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With Matt’s great help we made a metal press tool and made a handful of door guides in no time.  They came up great.

 

Also, made some progress on the front door stops - put one fold in, then used the shrinker to get the curved shape correct and when done will put in the last fold.

 

Also have a pile of wood and have started on the main rails.

 

lots of progress - thanks for your help Matt!

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