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There is a collapsible cabriolet that has been posted in this thread I believe. In fact, I believe a friend of George K had it and it sold at auction recently for around $125. Am I wrong?

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1 hour ago, prewarnut said:

These are custom bodies from the '15 catalogue if I remember right. Has anyone got photos of any extant examples? The town cars are quite formal and the roadsters quite sporty.

 

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Dated 1915 showing 1916 Models.

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1 hour ago, AHa said:

There is a collapsible cabriolet that has been posted in this thread I believe. In fact, I believe a friend of George K had it and it sold at auction recently for around $125. Am I wrong?

 

1 hour ago, AHa said:

There is a collapsible cabriolet that has been posted in this thread I believe. In fact, I believe a friend of George K had it and it sold at auction recently for around $125. Am I wrong?

I have no idea what you’re taking about. Never had a friend who owned such a car. Wrong again. 

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1 hour ago, prewarnut said:

These are custom bodies from the '15 catalogue if I remember right. Has anyone got photos of any extant examples? The town cars are quite formal and the roadsters quite sporty.

 

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Here are a couple of examples. First one was reported sold for over 400k in 2018. 0C8501A1-7003-49BD-BAF5-1E626733EBA4.png.cc82594bd5bce8145a5b34d36ca969b1.png55CCCA96-7284-404A-8C7B-590563CA6F02.jpeg.9bc1cef402a83007d6b07ba8fe1717a0.jpegIt is a 38 collapsible. Second was displayed at AACA.

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George, Hi thanks.  I now remember the dark blue '17 above mentioned earlier and it slipped my mind it was a custom. It looks like the market rewards these nicely. On the formal side are there any/many examples of the landaulets around?

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George do you know where the bottom picture was taken of the "Cinderella" Locomobile?  I would certainly like to see that automobile up close.  If it were mine, I am not sure I would pick as much light color, wheels and tires.  We all sure have our own tastes .

Al

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4 hours ago, alsfarms said:

George do you know where the bottom picture was taken of the "Cinderella" Locomobile?  I would certainly like to see that automobile up close.  If it were mine, I am not sure I would pick as much light color, wheels and tires.  We all sure have our own tastes .

Al

Al, I believe it was Clive Cussler’s now as he has passed Janet Cussler. It’s not your Cinderella car it’s a Coupe according to Prewarnut posting that color catalog. Your want a Landaulet. I agree about the colors. I like this one better. Nothing like going in style.F8B16979-63A8-4EA7-99B3-B17CD8080D20.jpeg.7a2c9abfb55cb9dd4935e2663ef1403c.jpeg

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  It is interesting on the two Dorsay's from the catalogue there are no spare tires showing. I guess for city work style overrules functionality. Here's a period photo from the NY Tribune April 1918 having space for side mounts (but empty).

 

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I am curious about which Buffalo wire wheel hubs are used on Locomobiles. I am trying to identify a Buffalo hub #LS B5 30985. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Ben

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On 10/6/2022 at 5:00 AM, George K said:

Here’s a car that is a 1916 M6. But after Coker owned it magically was a 1915. Not true but....A606DF42-B32F-49DF-9A32-78C669795606.jpeg.2ff49f50d535d80eb1f54f368b319035.jpeg7F7C12BB-64EB-470F-A85D-0C173E66AF2D.jpeg.52bd208a551c840d77379f9660bb1392.jpeg

George, from which magazine did you take the article about Carl M. Berrys collapsible roadster? Besides the engine number 9010 it shows the car number 10431, right? It is a car which I also found in several publications: In the list showing all Locos which were awarded the Stein Trophy for the best restored Locomobile attending a meeting during that year (only model 48 series 5 to 10) between 1950 and 1964, this car won in 1959. Mr. Berry placed at least two sale announcements in 1966. Enjoy.

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1 hour ago, Ittenbacher Frank said:

 

George, from which magazine did you take the article about Carl M. Berrys collapsible roadster? Besides the engine number 9010 it shows the car number 10431, right? It is a car which I also found in several publications: In the list showing all Locos which were awarded the Stein Trophy for the best restored Locomobile attending a meeting during that year (only model 48 series 5 to 10) between 1950 and 1964, this car won in 1959. Mr. Berry placed at least two sale announcements in 1966. Enjoy.

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Frank, thanks for the photos and data. Good to see you back on the forum. There is no such thing as a 1915-16 Locomobile. M6 is listed as a 1916 but could have been produced in 1915. Close only counts in horseshoes.2B1F2B1E-23D4-45AE-8D2E-EA6753DDD58F.jpeg.31ed18a695a36de59543e5c1248cfdaf.jpeg 39728388-4DD6-48A1-AD15-62393EDAAD81.jpeg.e4b28d2796e9be23d3b228b48c4f63f0.jpeg

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I haven't heard any good reports of Locomobile parts found at Hershey this year.  Please share a report with those of us that missed out this year.  One fellow posted pages out of a Locomobile and Riker brochure, on the Locomobile and Riker truck forum, that he purchased while at Hershey.  Yes, you guessed it, he is a truck guy but does appreciate Locomobile.

Al

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On 10/12/2022 at 3:43 PM, Ittenbacher Frank said:

 

George, from which magazine did you take the article about Carl M. Berrys collapsible roadster? Besides the engine number 9010 it shows the car number 10431, right? It is a car which I also found in several publications: In the list showing all Locos which were awarded the Stein Trophy for the best restored Locomobile attending a meeting during that year (only model 48 series 5 to 10) between 1950 and 1964, this car won in 1959. Mr. Berry placed at least two sale announcements in 1966. Enjoy.

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1964 Stein trophy list.jpg

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While on the topic of Ralph Stein who was a Locomobile maven this passage from his book The American Automobile.719B0BA4-EFF0-4437-B1F0-74BB5BB938F7.jpeg.1cb9c27048e4b9a1e92f174f2a32ac28.jpeg

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On 10/14/2022 at 1:11 AM, George K said:

While on the topic of Ralph Stein who was a Locomobile maven this passage from his book The American Automobile.719B0BA4-EFF0-4437-B1F0-74BB5BB938F7.jpeg.1cb9c27048e4b9a1e92f174f2a32ac28.jpeg

Dear George,

which book are you refering to? I have one from Alexander Stein, but it seems a different one, cannot find that Loco-chapter.

See how mine looks like:

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4 hours ago, Ittenbacher Frank said:

Dear George, I like to order a copy of your Stein-book, but he wrote are more than I thought: Which is the best one to buy?

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The first one on top. The American Automobile. 

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I like to draw your attention to a new post which I will start soon: The experimental laboratory of the Locomobile Company of America.

When talking to the History Center at the Bridgeport public library, I was able to convince the ladies to scan some documents from a box with Locomobile documents, and the result is more than amazing: They put together 153 pages, all from 1916 and 1917, all related to the experimental car R8 model.

For several reasons I think it will be very useful to us: Extract specific data and knowledge, enjoy reading about the difficulties and solutions during their 10.000 miles road test, and last but not least: appreciating the tendious work of the Bridgeport Library staff in scanning all these papers.

For me it is especially helpful because they experienced similar carburetor problems as I have, see my posts in the locomobile-model-48-and-38-engine-related-topics at page 6.

 

 

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On 10/16/2022 at 4:15 AM, George K said:

Interesting information that explains a rare body on a Locomobile.9E6B8674-8958-4069-B233-40C7E51F6ACC.jpeg.cd0902b448cf3ec26346dd222996100b.jpegF6C91430-5EB8-40CB-8E94-2FB5200EB3EF.jpeg.391fd4cb149964613aa0366575e0f85d.jpegFFABE29B-F35F-44F4-8EEF-37CF948391D6.jpeg.765623fa96bdc31ace6ef0414f2c1f5f.jpeg

George, are all three photos referring to the same exhibition? I have the second photo which shows the Loco chassis in good quality, it is said to be taken at the 1924 auto show, Drake Hotel Salon, Chicago.

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1 hour ago, Ittenbacher Frank said:

George, are all three photos referring to the same exhibition? I have the second photo which shows the Loco chassis in good quality, it is said to be taken at the 1924 auto show, Drake Hotel Salon, Chicago.

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Yes

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