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1911 - 1927 Locomobile 48 & 38 Gathering Place


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I checked out the Hagerty Website and ran across reference to an original Locomobile Roadster as found by collector Bob Sullivan.  Does any here have more information to share. What a Locomobile!  I can certainly sense that this is a custom unit as I see several things that are mostly considered "typical" on  most Locomobiles, but not on this automobile. Check out the Hagerty Website for more information.

Al

 

 

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Check out the Appraisal chat, in the "General" section above, going on regarding a 1917 Pershing styled Limousine, unrestored.  Quite an interesting bit of chatter about, the Locomobile, inheritance, capital gains and of course some good and some disdain for antique automobile appraisers.

Al

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Moving this conversation down here , as was recommended.

 

1917- 1919 LOCOMOBILE UPDATE

 

 

As was suggested, I contacted Steve Moskowitz, president of the Auto Club, and he was very helpful and informative. He recommended two accredited companies, the AAG and I.VAN for the Locomobile appraisal. He also gave me contact information for the aforementioned Locomobile expert Tim O.

 

Tim’s informed knowledge was most appreciated. Tim thought getting an appraiser to look at it, in its present condition, would be difficult. He also sent my pictures to several folks he thought may be interested in the purchase.

 

Pictures are available for your perusal  by

follow this URL link to the photos of the 1917-1919 Locomobile:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/df31ofk9ekeuaki/AABb9QE5oBizj0aIU6MOxR4fa?dl=0

 

As always , your thoughts and recommendations are always welcome.

 

Garret

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On 7/27/2022 at 3:38 AM, edinmass said:

The above photo is neat………never seen anything like it. The Loco tag looks like it’s added much later…….obviously if George took the snapshot it’s correct. How common is it to see two tags on a Loco? I can’t remember seeing a builder tag on any in person. 

 

On 7/29/2022 at 7:34 AM, George K said:

P.S. Check out the Lyndhurst photo.

I think your latest photo proves us both wrong.75153192-41C9-42F4-9CB6-B22F24D8ED41.jpeg.317c35714282ab1c0756800781c0a205.jpeg26153A97-22A2-4C79-98D4-69B63DB1C92E.jpeg.1132ca1540e16276ae7cd1737a5fb612.jpeg

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That’s what I was thinking when I saw it, so I  thought a photo was worth the effort. When you think you have seen everything, and have a good gut feel if something is right or wrong……..you get kicked in the ass. 

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10 hours ago, edinmass said:


That’s what I was thinking when I saw it, so I  thought a photo was worth the effort. When you think you have seen everything, and have a good gut feel if something is right or wrong……..you get kicked in the ass. 

Once a guy starts seeing them they pop up everywhere. This on the Ex Lars Anderson Pershing Locomobile.8EE73CED-17C1-40ED-BCF1-771C89A8320C.jpeg.26e9ced1419295131cd549cebcee4243.jpeg

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8 hours ago, George K said:

Found this picture. Unusual side mounts. Betting it’s the same car car for sale on HCCA. Both are 1918. Addition of front brakes is interesting upgrade.BFABF50C-F386-40B6-A631-BC3E2F660A1C.jpeg.111e12083c15a19b00b3e087852aabbe.jpeg7AB7E4C3-0625-45F5-927F-41DBD3AB85DF.jpeg.9f91b3ce3b26a57cb2a90817262aca6f.jpeg

 

   George, that gives me something to think about....the tops were somewhat interchangeable. I'm doing my best to prove you wrong but I just can't.😉  Was that Ridgefield?

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I wonder if the may have been used more on the later 48's when it was more typical for a Locomobile started to see 21" ballon tires in place of the two different sized high pressure tires that was certainly much more typical.  In my thinking, that is why the typical Locomobile dual rear spare tires, one size spare for the front and one size spare for the rear.

Al

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1 minute ago, RGairing said:

If anyone needs 48 hp Loco parts and a project let me know. Have the Limo as pictured,  extra chassis, engines, rear ends and much more.  Helping a friend find a good home for this good stuff.  Bob6C755579-9F1C-42A9-8268-F739FC3B9EB9.jpeg.9b61ef6c59f753c246adf61a5b31fdb5.jpeg3F6028AC-B3E1-4BF5-8A37-A94B4B4D695C.jpeg.22dba7669a1aea65a453d92f3cfc3176.jpeg 330-933-0402

 

That would keep @edinmass out of saloons for a few weeks.....  I wish I were 30 years younger.

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Since RGairing has opened the door to type 48 Locomobile project/restoration cars for sale, I thought I would throw my hat in the ring. My father recently passed away and left us with a 1917- 1919  Locomobile Type 48 Series 4. They were part of a series of General Staff cars build for WW I in which twelve were shipped to France and two were returned. My father says this one never made it to France…

This car is now living in the San Francisco Bay Area in two parts The engine and chassis seem to be fairly complete and restored and the body is on blocks and looks good except the insides. Please follow the Dropbox link to see pictures of this car and I will try to answer all questions. Thank you for your interest and comments

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/df31ofk9ekeuaki/AABb9QE5oBizj0aIU6MOxR4fa?dl=0

 

Garret

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George, What can you tell this group about the disc wheels shown on the bottom Pershing Locomobile Limousine?  They appear to be side mounted and likely 25".  I would guess that they would be the same as found on the Studebaker Big 6 or the big Nash of similar vintage, the Advanced 6.

Al

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20 minutes ago, alsfarms said:

George, What can you tell this group about the disc wheels shown on the bottom Pershing Locomobile Limousine?  They appear to be side mounted and likely 25".  I would guess that they would be the same as found on the Studebaker Big 6 or the big Nash of similar vintage, the Advanced 6.

Al

I’ll look into your question when I have time. These caught my eye the other day. Curbsideclassic blog posted these.B6CE9FED-B32F-424E-9710-DCC2FB24FF75.jpeg.d0e140a89f5707f98125050f6c43ea73.jpegEFDEEE41-C225-4785-83A6-74BE40A37553.jpeg.ac92f24d783cf7a6477441864c1fced0.jpeg76CEA115-D915-4CAE-9CF6-859DF48C7350.jpeg.ba702a010741f8730531d85ed0272100.jpeg

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    Interestingly, in regards to the Pershing's staff cars there may have been two types. First, the official advertisment one with the split v-shaped windshield and straight fenders (undoubtedly to save on cost or durability in situations with extreme muddy roads). Also, second, a flat windshield and traditional fenders arrangement as can be glimpsed in the parade photos and also here (from worldwar1.com).

 

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1 hour ago, prewarnut said:

    Interestingly, in regards to the Pershing's staff cars there may have been two types. First, the official advertisment one with the split v-shaped windshield and straight fenders (undoubtedly to save on cost or durability in situations with extreme muddy roads). Also, second, a flat windshield and traditional fenders arrangement as can be glimpsed in the parade photos and also here (from worldwar1.com).

 

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If you have the gumption buy both projects and have the pair.

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20 hours ago, alsfarms said:

Could you please share a "before" picture of this project.

Al

Hello Al

 As of yet, I have found no " before" pictures. This is unfortunate as several people have asked this question. I do have some pictures of the on- going restoration though.

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First, the official advertisment one with the split v-shaped windshield and straight fenders (undoubtedly to save on cost or durability in situations with extreme muddy roads). Also, second, a flat windshield and traditional fenders arrangement as can be glimpsed in the parade photos and also here (from worldwar1.com)

Hello George K

According to my father's notes on this subject, he indicates only several of these cars were made with the  split v-shaped windshields. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than I, on this  Locomobile,  can respond.

 

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