cjp69 Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 Jim, If you can change your title, you might have it say that you are looking to buy a 1935 68 series Vicky. Right now it reads like you are looking to buy any Buick between 1935 - 1968 1
Jim Nelson Posted July 30, 2018 Author Posted July 30, 2018 Yup! After I enteted the original Topic, I clarified the want. The word “Vicky” did a better definition of the car I wanted. I have never seen a 38-68 Vickey. The service manual lists it. Interestingly, the 1934/5 40 series cars used a Stromberg downdraft carb. The 50 and 60 series engines all used the Marval updraft carb. The service manual has lots of details to help you choose which series you would like. I checked out the Marval carburetor and its a very complicated device. The Stromberg won that contest.
Grimy Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 1934 is virtually identical, and I believe more Buicks were built in 1934 than 1935. On the other hand, if 1935 is your birth year or otherwise meaningful, stay with 1935.
Jim Nelson Posted July 30, 2018 Author Posted July 30, 2018 I believe the 1934 had a trunk shelf in back with a seperate trunk. Where the 1935 had a built in trunk like later model’s. The service manual says ‘1934 - 1935.
Grimy Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) I researched 1934-35 Buicks quite a bit, and inspected more than a few personally, during the 47 years I owned a 1934 56S (sport coupe with rumble seat). All "victorias" I saw had a built-in vertical trunk (shallow but tall) AND an accessory trunk rack IF the car had 6-wheel (fenderwell) equipment. Those cars with 5-wheel (spare at rear) equipment lacked the trunk rack. The body shells of 1934 and 1935 body styles were identical for each specific body. Edited July 30, 2018 by Grimy changed one word (see edit history)
Jim Nelson Posted July 31, 2018 Author Posted July 31, 2018 I found that the 40 series of the 34-35 Buicks had a different configeration / desinged engine. It had a design that became the 248 design. It used the Stromberg downdraft carb. The others all used the Marvel up draft carb. The 50,60, and 90 series engines had the generator, distributor, water pump and oil cooler - all operated on a single inline driveshaft on the right side of the block. An interesting car made in the 34/35 depression time period.
Grimy Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Jim, the Series 40 was all-new for 1934, and had a 117" wheelbase and modern new engine, the 233 which subsequently grew to the 248 and later the 263--a great engine. The Series 40 bodies were shaped differently (Chev / Pontiac origin) to distinguish them from the (arguably) smoother, more integrated styling of the 50 (119 wb), 60 (128 wb), and 90 (136 wb). The 40 had painted (vs chrome) headlight bullets, a different instrument panel, different hubcaps--all of which were identical for 50-60-90. The 50-60-90 engines (all different sizes with almost no interchangeable parts) were each generally the same as those new for 1931, and were abandoned after 1935. Because of the 233/248 continuity, it's far easier to find parts for those engines. The 40 transmission is the same through at least 1936, and is also used by 1934-35 Series 50 (but not 60 and 90). The 40 resulted in a significant increase in Buick market share. Suggest you examine the body differences (40 vs 50/60/90) and see what floats your boat. The gearing on Series 50 is 4.88 which limits you to a 45 mph cruising speed unless you invest in a Lloyd Young overdrive available from his successor, as Lloyd recently passed away. I don't recall the gear ratios on the other series, but they are all faster than the 50. 1
Jim Nelson Posted July 31, 2018 Author Posted July 31, 2018 I have a 38 46s with. Ta Ta - - Lloyds over drive. I love it. It would be the only way to own a 34/35 Buick and drive it. The 38 with the 40 series rear had a 4.44 rear but with over drive, I can cruise 65 mph and turn 2350 rpm.. I got to know Lloyd over several years and miss him and all his over drive knowledge. Glen had been doing Lloyds machine work and has picked it up. So if you want one, he is listed in Hemmings or let me know and I have his phone. Send him your third member with the torq tube and will put an over drove in it and send it back to you . The rest is easy to hook up and your going to really appreciate the OD system. I drive mine on 100 to 200 mile trips .
Jim Nelson Posted July 31, 2018 Author Posted July 31, 2018 Grimy, Would you give me your e-mail address. There are several questions I would like your opinion on. My address is oldbuickjim@gmail.com
Grimy Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jim Nelson said: Grimy, Would you give me your e-mail address. I just sent you an email from my personal acct, Jim. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Jim Nelson Posted July 31, 2018 Author Posted July 31, 2018 Wow, your a Pierce Arrow guy. Lloyd Young has two, if I can remember. His auction is this month if you are interested. Lloyd had a bunch of different cars he was collecting
Grimy Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 My acquisition days are over! I have three cars to get running again over the next year. But thanks for thinking of me!
cjp69 Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 Some of these might not be right, but I will just post what I found. https://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1935-buick-victoria-coupe/6657953850.html https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1935-buick-sedan-street-rod/6651664151.html https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/d/1934-buick-57s/6651143011.html https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/d/1935-buick-model-57-sedan/6641023851.html https://butte.craigslist.org/cto/d/1935-buick/6650068732.html Color photos of the last one: https://butte.craigslist.org/cto/d/1935-buick/6637334786.html https://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/d/1934-buick/6635499753.html https://www.ebay.com/itm/163020963102
Renascence Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 I have seen the 34 model 57 in Wisconsin and it is a nice car.
Dynaflash8 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 In all my research over the years, the difference between 34 and 35 was almost slim and none. The '35 has two windshield wipers, and I think I recall that the '35 Special introduced an automatic choke. I saw a yellow Vicky advertised on this site or ebay within the last two weeks.
Jim Nelson Posted August 1, 2018 Author Posted August 1, 2018 Hi Dynaflash, I I’m looking at that one. I will be going to see it next week. The biggest negative is the engine. It the 1931 design. That has the thru shaft on the generator that then runs the distributor and then runs the water pump. The water pump then runs water thru the oil cooler / warmer on its way to the engine. The 40 series of the ‘35’ car introduced the 248 design. That is the better choice as it has the downdraft Stromberg carb. The 50, 60, and 90 series all have the Marvel updraft induction system. That is why the 40 series is better. Of course, IMHO only. Having to much fun .
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