Brake problem-Locking up wheel-37 Packard 120

[pint4 5]

I have a 37 Packard 120 and am having problems with the brakes locking up.  A very experienced mechanic rebuilt the entire brake system all the way from master cylinder to each and every wheel.  He said the set-up process was very difficult.  He followed the set-up and adjustment procedures as outlined in the Packard shop manual yet as he set things up, one by one he had to work at extensively adjusting each wheel because first one would lock up and then another and then another.  Thought all were good to go and the car drove well for 100 miles and then this year for no apparent reason, the left rear locked up when coming to a stop at a light.  More adjusting and seems to be working but based on its history, not confident the problem won't come back at the worst possible time.  Has anyone had this problem?  Is there a trick to setting up the brakes?  As I mentioned, everything is new in the entire system.  Any input would be appreciated.  Hard to find people who still work on these older cars.  Thanks, Bob

[c49er 162]

Modern hard linings or soft woven....I did a 1508 with woven linings to correct erratic braking.

[Wascator 11]

You have oil or grease on the linings; try cleaning the lingong surface and drum surface with brake-clean solvent.

[old car fan 184]

My first thought,but a backyard mechanic would see that,some car's are very hard to get right

[keiser31 2,308]

Can you provide a photo of the brakes or a drawing from the manual? We would do better if we knew what kind of brakes you are dealing with.

[pint4 5]

Here is a picture of my brakes.  Sorry it took so long but have spent more time in hospital than anywhere else over the past 2 weeks.  Finally catching up on things.

[tom_in_nh 10]

Can you also show us a picture of the right rear brakes?

A photo of inside the drums would help, too.

[plymouthcranbrook 156]

I can't really tell by the photo but the primary and secondary shoes are in the right places aren't they?

[keiser31 2,308]

That looks to be a fairly standard brake system. Did you arc the shoes to be certain that the curve of the shoe matches the curve of the drum? Are the drums REALLY clean? Are the shoes REALLY clean? Have you bled all of the brake wheel cylinders from the farthest away from the master cylinder and working your way to the front? Sorry for the simple questions, but there are only so many things to check here. What is your location? Maybe a member near you can help. 

[keiser31 2,308]

So very sorry to hear of you spending time in the hospital. Hopefully, you are doing well.

[keiser31 2,308]

I always adjust the shoes to BARELY rub the drums. If you spin the drum and hear rubbing a little, that is fine. If you spin the drum and you hear intermittent rubbing, the drums may have to be turned. Be sure the brake shoes are seated in the right spots and centered on the backing plate.

Edited August 11, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history)

[PFitz 199]

Looks like the edges of the linings were not beveled. If so, that can cause "grabbing" with self-energizing (single anchor) brake systems.  You can bevel them on the car with a wood rasp file.

 

Paul

[keiser31 2,308]

3 minutes ago, PFitz said:

Looks like the edges of the linings were not beveled. If so, that can cause "grabbing" with self-energizing (single anchor) brake systems.  You can bevel them on the car with a wood rasp file.

 

Paul

YES! I forgot that part. That would be the ends of the shoe surfaces.

Edited August 11, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history)

[PFitz 199]

35 minutes ago, keiser31 said:

YES! I forgot that part. That would be the ends of the shoe surfaces.

 Thank you Keiser - yes, just bevel the ends, not all "edges".  

 

Had just finished another post about oil/grease seals and must had the word "edges" still on my mind.

 

Paul

Edited August 11, 2018 by PFitz (see edit history)