adyv8 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 hi i am in the uk and my main man is colin spong who most of you will know he is on the case what it is i cannot obtain the correct brake linings for my 36 zephyr had them done now twice second time in a cloth type been back to brake man today thats all he does brake are very bad all cables are new if anybody can help please let me know thanks ady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38ShortopConv. Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) I have only worked on 1938 LZs. your 1936/37 looks similar except for the twin cables. Soft linings are best , bite in easier, less pedal pressure needed. Linings should be radiused [arc ground] to fit curve of drum and shoes centralized by adjusting large nut and eccentric stud on outside of backing plate. Refer to service bulletin. Weakest spring on leading shoe to come on first then stronger spring on secondary shoe follows pulling shoes in direction of rotation to tighten into drum. Red, green black shoe springs clockwise seems to ring a bell? Cables may need to pull in straighter line, looks like that rear backing plate could be revolved clockwise to next set of bolt holes to give cables a straighter pull. Colin will know all this , Cheers Edited April 26, 2018 by 38ShortopConv. Spelling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken/Alabama Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Looks like your shoes aren't making full contact with the drum. Shoes need to be arc ground to match the contour of the drum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltfed Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I was told by a very old brake and tranny shop that, that type of shoe is only for emergency brake applications. I had planned on using that style on my ‘38, last year for the cables. Went with his suggestion not to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19tom40 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 The correct lining material can be purchased from: Brake Materials & Parts, Inc. Fort Wayne, IN (260) 426-3331 Scott He also arc grinds the shoes, but the shipping from the UK for the shoes is expensive. He may have some replacement shoes for your car. Measure your drums, they should not be cut more than .060" oversize. If they are larger than that, you will have to have thicker linings arc ground for your drums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray500 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Really time to consider upgrading those mechanical brakes to hydraulic for safety's sake. If you drive much with the modern traffic and crazed drivers out there stopping is important at times. Most judging allows for safety reasons so that it doesn't take away from the authenticity of the vehicle. It was only some 3 years later that Ford did upgrade the brakes on these cars. Luckily brake parts to do repairs or conversions is readily available many places, and you don't have to totally convert to disc brakes either. Just my thoughts......! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kelso Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 19Tom40 thanks for that bit of information, spoke with them yesterday and they can do my 1936 K shoes. Seem to be good folks. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adyv8 Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 hi thanks for the info great help never heard of Shoes need to be arc ground thats the answer many thanks ady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mc Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Looks like a beauty there, any more pictures?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adyv8 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 hi its ady again it turns out that hen my shoes were relined they BENT THEM during the glue presses sorted the bent issue took them back still have poor brakes any more help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFranklin Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 When you say you have poor brakes can you define the symptoms? I think the linings you are using should stop the car as well as other types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adyv8 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 hi have adjusted the shoe as in the instructions from club mag good brake pedal but will not stop car i had a 35 ford with the Dead Stop Brake Energizer Kit brakes were great any sugestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19tom40 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Your shoes may not be making full contact with the drums or not equalized. See if you can lock the brakes and tell if all four are grabbing at the same time. Check the skid marks to see if all 4 are grabbing, if not, go through the cable adjustment again. If they are all grabbing at the same time, spray a thin coat of paint on the shoes and then make several stops. The paint should wear off the shoes where the shoes contact the drums. Doing just the front wheel shoes should give you an idea if that is your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adyv8 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 hi thanks will try that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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