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17 hours ago, PFitz said:

One more for those that like to guess....



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AN INCREDIBLY VERY NICE - WELL RESTORED 1930 Franklin engine with a rare accessory MASCO Heater Exhaust Manifold (for people that like to dream of and the feel of the tropics on either the coldest or warmest of days and also is the 1930 type manifold that makes it impossible to install a tall distributor - which was a nice accessory via 1031 to get the dirstibutor out of the heat).  For those curious: On top photo upper left there is a valve oiler (factory), hanging under the front of the exhaust manifold is the siphon to open and close  the grill shell shutter,  and on the lower photo just to the left of the fuel pump is basically a PVC valve to pressurize the crankcase and blow vapors up the push rods tubes.   You can see a take-off wire from the starter crossing through the engine and that is for the electric fuemer for the carburetor to pre-heat fuel.    


It also has factory accessory Trumpet Horns to extra challenge people opening and closing hood.


In the nit picking detail department (which is hard as this is one of the better looking engines I have ever seen):  Not sure, but looks like a louvered 1931 Air Cleaner verses a 1930. The boot on the distributor to isolate it from heat seems to be missing or perhaps was an accessory - do not recall.  Someone forgot to put the coil wire in the chrome wire loom and to accomplish this you generally need gloss black wire as you need the 'slick" wire or otherwise near impossible to get all the wires in the tube.  .   The spark plugs usually had brass quick disconnect  caps that also held on Bakelite covers over the plugs.     The exhaust pipe header is a reproduction. Our car originally had nickled push rod tubes and cross over/hold down , a nickled oil fill cap, chrome valve cover hold-down clips, and chrome brackets for the spark plug wire loom tube (do not know if nickle/chrome was standard or just was originally on our car - I painted a lot of its nickle/chrome when I restored our car).   Our car also originally had a molded wrap on the exhaust pipe header, but that may have been because it was  originally a Florida car.

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Thanks, John,  but some corrections are needed for your nitpicking. 😁


That's a late 147, which incorporated some of the 31 features, such as the louvered 153 air cleaner. Also the later production smaller fender lights, and stainless steel spokes and twin tail lights options. Some of the very last of 30 production even had the passenger side 31 air deflector box and door (drawing #53215) of which this was one, but it was removed to have the optional Masco exhaust heater. 


Your car had been changed by someone later on. No nickel plated pushrod tubes or hold downs. For many years of production, they were originally painted "aluminum flameproof  Kepolac" (high temp aluminum paint), same as the valve cages. The valve covers and bail clip were always black, as were the loom clips, and oil filler cap too. That's all on the factory drawings and many original examples survive.  


Only nickel plated parts under the hood were the oil and fuel lines. Then for some reason they painted the oil lines with Kepolac over the nickel. It's also on the factory drawing. 


No boot for the distributor of the 1930. It had a sheet metal deflector that bolted to the lower bolts of the exhaust manifold and hung down between the distributor head and the cylinders. You can just make  out the bottom edge of it in under the heater manifold. 


The "engine ventilator"  (PVC) does not blow crankcase vapors up the push rod tubes.  There's a engine breather pipe (road draft tube) just forward of the distributor base that vents the crankcase. The ventilator tube to engine base connection  has a bi-metallic vent in it so that it only vents the crankcase when the engine is cold and blow-by is at it's worst. When the engine is warmed up it closes to save blowing out oil vapor. That was the late  Chapp Condit's contribution to the Franklin engine design before he left the test shed. 


No one forgot. The coil/distributor wire is outside the loom to prevent inductive cross firing as a result of the newer 6 volt coil being a bit hotter than the originals. It could look original with the wire in, or it could idle smoothly with the wire out,..... owner chose idle smoothly.


That engine exhaust pipe was made before the Club's repro mandrel bent pipes were available.


Other than that, your right. 😉



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Here is something you probably won't see in the US, and for contrast the car and engine bay are presented in as found condition.


The car is a JDM 1979 Toyota Crown MS107 seven passenger wagon. Toyota only built 1900 of these.  Extensive enquiries have not turned up another one of this model anywhere.


The engine is a Toyota M, the smallest, at two litres, of the many variants of that engine series ( 75mm x 75 mm bore/stroke, single overhead cam six with two valves per cylinder, making about 100 hp) and this model appears to have an early attempt at emissions controls. The weird thing is that even though it is fed by a carburettor it has an ECU to run the emissions system.


The tow car is a 1974 Datsun 240C fitted with a turbocharged LD28 diesel six.







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On 1/29/2019 at 12:19 PM, Pfeil said:

You are quite right about that. The "STANDARD OF THE WORLD" with a Chevy engine in it...……….From the factory!!


Just get the antique Chevy.



No engine shot, looks just like the Caddy.


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On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 10:15 AM, Paul Dobbin said:



Now that is interesting. A FE Ford engine with a GM air cleaner with the red stick-on  that looks very familiar to the mid 60's Oldsmobile Ultra High Compression stick-on ones!

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57 minutes ago, Paul Dobbin said:

Stick-ons are Ford Thunderbird 390

I couldn't tell as they are blurred, However on close inspection that air cleaner is a rare one. I have only seen them on 1966  L-79 327 Chevrolet engines, specifically to the L-79 Nova


 Image result for L-79 Nova engine image

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