Howsrd123459 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 This is a genuen Rolls Roche statue “ Spirit Of Ecstasy”. Extremely rare and very valible. Anyone who knows anything about this knows it’s a steal. Have authication papers and papers that show it’s value which says it’s valued at 6000 euros and was appraised in 2017 as well as bought from a European art gallery. For more info please email! Looking to get 5000 Canadian or best offer Is 100% out of bronze plated with silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Is this a scam??????????????????????????????? But then again he does have a paper of genuine authenticity. Now if it were 100% silver with bronze plating I might consider it. Strange he is asking for Canadian dollars and I guess that is to set the hook tighter. Edited January 21, 2018 by Joe in Canada (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 So with the current exchange rate, this would be $4,001.22 in U.S. dollars (or best offer) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 A picture with the paperwork would be very helpful to ensure its authenticity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 No photos? What size is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 A few years ago on our Forum there was another one of these for sale. It was far larger than a hood ornament; it was an actual mid-sized statue. I don't know the origin, but I suspect they might have been exhibited in dealerships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Marty Roth said: So with the current exchange rate, this would be $4,001.22 in U.S. dollars (or best offer) Now just think if AACA members went on a National Tour in Canada it would be the same 30% discount for every penny they spend on the tour including registration. Why the room at $135 a night including a hot breakfast with 30% dollar exchange difference alone would almost cover the cost of your passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: A few years ago on our Forum there was another one of these for sale. It was far larger than a hood ornament; it was an actual mid-sized statue. I don't know the origin, but I suspect they might have been exhibited in dealerships. There are real ones that were supplied to RR dealers by RR of America. There is also an ashtray with the RR mascot but I would take a lot of convincing that the one offered here is one of those. But then this one is for Rolls Roche... Edited January 21, 2018 by JV Puleo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I believe Don Sommers at American Arrow made several of these large Ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Carl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Welcome to AACA forums , Howsrd123459 ! As you gather , forum participants are wary of first time posters offering good deals. A number of us have been burned thusly. Please include pics , and your contacts. I seem to recall a fairly recent sale of a similar statue here. I am an old fool , far too trusting , due to being brought up with unrealistic expectations from my mother. But the guys are teaching me. So please pardon any skepticism here , and if you are for real , please offer more info. If you are not for real , please find yourself a virtuous path in life. No one , not even the potential victims you will spare , will benefit more than yourself. You know , all that "Virtue is its own reward" , and "If the greedy scoundrel knew the blessings of virtue , he would be the most virtuous of men" , stuff. Try it , you might grow to like it after a while. Again , dear newbie , welcome to the wonderful world of AACA where we have strength in numbers. We exist here to help one another. I hope you stick around and do the same. - Carl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Very well said Carl. I might add if he is trying to rip someone off we will do everything in our power to prevent that from happening. Maybe that is what you were getting at but sometimes plain language is more meaningful. My true feelings on rip off artist can not be expressed on a family forum. Dave S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Howsrd123459 this is a tough group. We will want to see photos with a measuring device AND a newspaper folded so that we can read the date of the newspaper, ALL IN THE SAME PHOTO, and NOT photoshopped.... Edited January 22, 2018 by Grimy replaced missing letter (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidAU Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 As the others have said, please show us detailed photos of the engraving on the base and under the wings and also photos with a ruler showing height and width so we can determine what model and or year of the car it was designed for as they are all different. A photo of the verification sheet would also be interesting but unless the statue is genuine and certified by a well known Rolls-Royce expert its not worth the paper its printed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) I've seen a couple of these early Rolls-Royce statues, and they were said to be used in dealership showrooms. The ones I saw were a bit under 2' high on marble bases; one of these went to auction where it sold for about $2000, but this was 15 years ago. I think it would be difficult to fake one and make it look authentic. I can't imagine the seller is only selling a radiator mascot for that amount of money. Edited January 22, 2018 by Craig Gillingham (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Wow, you guys wasted no time in beating up on this newbie. Doubt he'll be back after reading all that. What if he really has an original statue, and the paperwork shows it's really special? Maybe it was owned by the Grand Poohpaw of Neverbeenastan? Reminds me of the time that stupid me, I had a fellow tell me about a really nice car, and the pricing, and I made fun of it too, saying it couldn't possibly be that good for that price, so I never even went to look at it. Later, I saw the car after someone else bought it, and what a honey of a car it was. So, making fun of a deal without knowing all about the facts can really backfire.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said: A few years ago on our Forum there was another one of these for sale. It was far larger than a hood ornament; it was an actual mid-sized statue. I don't know the origin, but I suspect they might have been exhibited in dealerships. Yes, I bought it , and I am still glad did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have hidden some of the replies to this discussion. I have sent a message to the original poster asking him to please reply to the questions in this discussion. He sent me some photos by PM, but I have asked him to post them publicly here along with his reply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 20 hours ago, Joe in Canada said: Is this a scam??????????????????????????????? But then again he does have a paper of genuine authenticity. Now if it were 100% silver with bronze plating I might consider it. Strange he is asking for Canadian dollars and I guess that is to set the hook tighter. 20 hours ago, Joe in Canada said: Is this a scam??????????????????????????????? But then again he does have a paper of genuine authenticity. Now if it were 100% silver with bronze plating I might consider it. Strange he is asking for Canadian dollars and I guess that is to set the hook tighter. It is bronze with silver playing and 100% real am asking for Canadian dollars because I moved to Canada recently with the art!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 19 hours ago, TerryB said: A picture with the paperwork would be very helpful to ensure its authenticity. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 18 hours ago, keiser31 said: No photos? What size is it? Pictures now available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Grimy said: Howsrd123459 this is a tough group. We will want to see photos with a measuring device AND a newspaper folded so that we can read the date of the newspaper, ALL IN THE SAME PHOTO, and NOT photoshopped.... This is a very easy photo shop job !! I have posted pictures and if you still feel u need more pictures feel free to ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 11 hours ago, DavidAU said: As the others have said, please show us detailed photos of the engraving on the base and under the wings and also photos with a ruler showing height and width so we can determine what model and or year of the car it was designed for as they are all different. A photo of the verification sheet would also be interesting but unless the statue is genuine and certified by a well known Rolls-Royce expert its not worth the paper its printed on. Will get to us ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Craig Gillingham said: I've seen a couple of these early Rolls-Royce statues, and they were said to be used in dealership showrooms. The ones I saw were a bit under 2' high on marble bases; one of these went to auction where it sold for about $2000, but this was 15 years ago. I think it would be difficult to fake one and make it look authentic. I can't imagine the seller is only selling a radiator mascot for that amount of money. Indeed value has gone up! Feel free to look on internet ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, trimacar said: Wow, you guys wasted no time in beating up on this newbie. Doubt he'll be back after reading all that. What if he really has an original statue, and the paperwork shows it's really special? Maybe it was owned by the Grand Poohpaw of Neverbeenastan? Reminds me of the time that stupid me, I had a fellow tell me about a really nice car, and the pricing, and I made fun of it too, saying it couldn't possibly be that good for that price, so I never even went to look at it. Later, I saw the car after someone else bought it, and what a honey of a car it was. So, making fun of a deal without knowing all about the facts can really backfire.... Very much agreeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Can you please add a picture of the signature and foundry markings which are also necessary to provide authenticity. Thank you, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Never mind, I think I know where you bought it... https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Small-Bronze-Sculpture-Size-9-L-x-9-W-x-14-H/182720132861?hash=item2a8af7f6fd:g:hSgAAOSwcj1aAzIe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mark Wetherbee said: Never mind, I think I know where you bought it... https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Small-Bronze-Sculpture-Size-9-L-x-9-W-x-14-H/182720132861?hash=item2a8af7f6fd:g:hSgAAOSwcj1aAzIe Different base. Different size. Edited January 22, 2018 by keiser31 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 hours ago, keiser31 said: Different base. Different size. Several variations available: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Large-Oversize-Rolls-Royce-Silver-Lady-Statue-Electro-Plated-Bronze-Figure/232367156971?hash=item361a296eeb:g:gB4AAOSwnK9ZO8HM https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Large-Bronze-Sculpture-Size-14-L-x-17-W-x-18-H/182703600383?hash=item2a89fbb2ff:g:~1MAAOSwxGRZhgqa https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Spirit-of-Ecstasy-Bronze-Sculpture-Silver-Finish-15-in-Price-Reduced/372043395976?hash=item569f83b388:g:aU0AAOSwB9xXO4i8 and a somewhat larger original showing that it’s SIGNED https://m.ebay.com/itm/Charles-Sykes-Rolls-Royce-Spirit-of-Ecstasy-28-Bronze-Sculpture-original/332242838072?hash=item4d5b376238:g:YsMAAOSwblZZLGGv I could be wrong, but one of the scum artists pictures was from eBay and it looks really cheaply done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Mark Wetherbee said: Never mind, I think I know where you bought it... https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Small-Bronze-Sculpture-Size-9-L-x-9-W-x-14-H/182720132861?hash=item2a8af7f6fd:g:hSgAAOSwcj1aAzIe Aren’t we about fast to be rude hahahah this was bought in Europe !!! At an art gallery in 2001 and got papers just last year before I moved !!! Different size different base different quality different look !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Wetherbee said: Several variations available: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Large-Oversize-Rolls-Royce-Silver-Lady-Statue-Electro-Plated-Bronze-Figure/232367156971?hash=item361a296eeb:g:gB4AAOSwnK9ZO8HM https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Large-Bronze-Sculpture-Size-14-L-x-17-W-x-18-H/182703600383?hash=item2a89fbb2ff:g:~1MAAOSwxGRZhgqa https://m.ebay.com/itm/Rolls-Royce-Spirit-of-Ecstasy-Bronze-Sculpture-Silver-Finish-15-in-Price-Reduced/372043395976?hash=item569f83b388:g:aU0AAOSwB9xXO4i8 and a somewhat larger original showing that it’s SIGNED https://m.ebay.com/itm/Charles-Sykes-Rolls-Royce-Spirit-of-Ecstasy-28-Bronze-Sculpture-original/332242838072?hash=item4d5b376238:g:YsMAAOSwblZZLGGv I could be wrong, but one of the scum artists pictures was from eBay and it looks really cheaply done. Lol 100% wrong ... is anyone actually interested ? If you want come have it tested I’m not gunna tell u there’s no scams out there but this isn’t one hahah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Mark Wetherbee said: Can you please add a picture of the signature and foundry markings which are also necessary to provide authenticity. Thank you, Mark There’s the papers again feel free to do research on the gallerie 53836520730__A344B445-DC91-4776-A6EF-98EEE4DFDE47.MOV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 But you still won’t add pictures of the signature and foundry marks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Wetherbee said: But you still won’t add pictures of the signature and foundry marks? Not currently with the art !!! Will take more pictures ASAP for any interested buyers !! Anyone who would like to take test or do there own authentication is free to do so !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 That is a gorgeous item! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Even though the add was vague at first,He knew to much info.Details are the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 Anyone interested in buying this art piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 That's a very nice piece, and with documentation should bring good money. Someone on this forum might be interested, but your better market would be Ebay or PreWarCar, either would get you international exposure. Good luck with the sale. I'm glad you were able to laugh off all the doubters.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsrd123459 Posted January 27, 2018 Author Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, trimacar said: That's a very nice piece, and with documentation should bring good money. Someone on this forum might be interested, but your better market would be Ebay or PreWarCar, either would get you international exposure. Good luck with the sale. I'm glad you were able to laugh off all the doubters.... Will try Ebay and PreWarCar ... nice to hear some positive input ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I think that's a capital idea. First off I don't think anyone on the planet could fake such a gorgeous piece and expect to make money on it. Should you actually do the ebay thing take lots and lots of GOOD, high quality photos. You're chasing an extremely discriminating audience and they won't settle for lousy photos. Many of your photos are excellent but many are not, particularly the documentation papers. Please post a link if and when you sell it there.......that's one I REALLY want to watch....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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