oldcar

1922 Fiat 501 Targa Florio

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16 minutes ago, oldcar said:

Hello Stude 17

In the words of someone famous although I have forgotten who, "Easy for you, difficult for me". While I have been involved in messing about with old motor cars for around 55-60 years in one way or another, I have never learnt the skill of metal working i.e. with a lathe & or mill. Everything I do is done using very basic hand tools, some almost as old as I am.

However I am sorry but I am not going to let this unforgivable lack of knowledge stop me from enjoying my hobby. If you have ever worked on a 1920's Fiat you would know that mixing threads and nut profiles never stopped them from building their cars.  As you are probably aware I did own a 1920 Studebaker for a very brief period and I do not regret selling it at all. If I need sophistication all I need to do is walk out the door and look at my 1934 Lagonda Rapier, a car I have owned and maintained since buying it as a wreck and rebuilding it in 1978. My wife and I have driven in it for over 100,000 miles including six visits to the UK and Europe. (We live in Australia) Our longest visit to Europe was for Five Months using the Lagonda Rapier as a daily driver throughout that time. I do all my own maintenance including rebuilding the (Twin overhead cam) engine and Pre-selector gearbox. As you may be able to understand from the photographs below, the Lagonda Rapier engine is just a tad more sophisticated than a side valve Studebaker. The final photographs shows the Lagonda  Rapier as it was in the 1950s & 60s

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 Your response is typical of your approach to other people's views and I find it basically irrelevant other than the part where you allude to a lathe and mill.  You do not need these items of equipment to make these studs and further you are not the only person who has spent their lifetime working on old cars. Yes easy for me only because I have made many such items often with basic equipment and other time with a lathe etc.

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This is what my vehicle looks like under the hood, for the sake of disclosure or whatever other reason. You've never owned an Alfa have you Bernie? A 1967 is by no means an antique by any standard, but it has no power steering, power brakes, air conditioning or electronic fuel injection. Open touring and gives more road feel than any modern car. If I drive directly to the west, you know where I end up? Bodega Bay where the Alfred Hitchcock movie The Birds was filmed. Do you happen to know which car was featured in that film?

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13 minutes ago, oldcar said:

Then just like any other 80+ year old I completely forgot about them. Oh well!

 

I have the same problem Bernie, and I'm only 60+ :)

 

Looking forward to the next round of pictures. Sounds like you are making good progress.

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On ‎6‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 8:02 PM, oldcar said:

Good Morning Paul

The main thing is not to let it get you down!  Life without a project would be a disaster for me. I find that apart from having to use my hands, that having to exercise my mind every day is very important. I see too many of my friends without anything to do and nothing to keep them active just slipping away, both physically and mentally. I really do appreciate the interest and interaction with you and the other contributors here. 

Thank you

Bernie j.

 

I'm always meeting people who are recently retired and they ask what I do to stay busy. My response is always that I have so much to do that I still go back to work a couple of days a week to rest! Seriously, it amazes me how many 'retired' people say they are so bored with nothing to do. I invite them over to scrape grease off car parts and beadblast parts but no one has taken me up on that. :(

 

We all enjoy following your progress and challenges Bernie. Thank you for your posts!!

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Today is Sunday here in Southern Australia so I had better be nice to everyone (for a change).

I finally have got around to fitting the Differential into the rear axle housing but first a "Trap for young players" or what is wrong with this photograph? The first is I am happy to say NOT MINE. But some unknown persons rather brutal attempt to remove the Diff centre from a rear axle housing. The next photograph you could be excused for thinking "That has to be wrong!" but NO as the third photograph shown the Diff safely fitted up and the securing stud's and nuts "on the way".

Fortunately I had been fore-warned by a "video" shown on another website  showing that this was the essential first step in assembly  of a Fiat 501 rear axle. The only way to assemble this rear axle is by first pushing the diff centre into the axle housing at 90 degrees to its final position. With it pushed hard up against the flange it can then be turned to the correct position and the retaining studs complete with spring washer and nut screwed in. Dismantling is the reverse procedure. Not the total destruction method as used with the diff shown in the first photograph.

Bj

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Like many others, no doubt, I look forward to the results of your efforts. Reading this thread I am just sad that my friend Alan Roberts, who knew 501s inside out and backwards, is longer with us to guide you in your endeavours.

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As promised here are todays photographs of the rear axles and the bearing retaining mechanism.

Fortunately I have  one or two spare halfshafts but just the two bearings and their oils seal etc. 

Don't feel to badly about your inability to offer assistance, I find that experience is still the best teacher!

That the need to "nut" things out keeps my brain stimulated and working, while many of the men my age 

have settled down into their armchairs to moulder away, I would much sooner be out in my garage solving

the puzzles that these funny old cars keep throwing at me.

"While Rome was not built in a day; they are still using many of the same techniques building today."

I may have to visit my friendly local shoe repair man to get some new leather for the oil seals.

 

Bj.

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5 hours ago, oldcar said:

Good afternoon

I trust that you have all had an enjoyable nap and are feeling refreshed and bright eyed. For now we will not go as far as to say "Bushey tailed!

Having cleaned up both the "good" half shafts I owe everyone in the design department of Fiat during the early 1920s a sincere apology.

There it is as clear as mud in your eye. Anyone fluent in French or Italian will tell you straight away. After looking at the attached photograph taken just minutes ago how many of you can tell me what they can see and what is the significance.

 

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Good morning Bernie,

 

The only thing I would remotely be fluent in with respect to French or Italian would be food and/or alcohol related.  But with the help of google ;-), I would say those are marked for right and left.

 

Frank

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S - Sinistra - as in Sinister for Left. Apparently Lefties are considered sinister in Italy.

D- Destra is for Right hand thread

 

You need one of each because the drag needs to act to tighten.

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I hope a bit of humour is not frowned on here...?

Posh gent who likes his golf get invited to play a round out at a country course he hasnt been to before - takes off in his 30s convertible RR. Decides to stop for fuel at a little one bowser garage to ensure he gets home. The boy there has never seen such a car before, and is fascinated, and finally, after inspecting all the wheels, asks 'What year UNDO is this '? Then he notices a row of golf tees on a rack on the running board, and asks what they are for. "They are for putting your balls on when you are driving" says the owner. "They thought of everything, didnt they!" exclaims the boy.

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