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At present, I am up to 15 antique cars ranging from 1915 to 1930, all in need of "something".  I have several acres of land and a huge barn which houses most of the cars but have found it necessary to set up four Harbor Freight portable garages to house the rest. My place is starting to look like the circus came to town!   Some guys can't walk past a beautiful woman without stopping. I can't walk past an old car without buying!  Luckily,I am a pretty skilled amateur mechanic and have a well stocked shop but...

           Is there a support group for guys like me?

                                                           an old duffer

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Why yes , y'ol' duff' ! ? Yes indeed there is ! And you are already THERE , because you are already are HERE ! ? 

 

In my opinion , step one is to store any of your cars worth saving so that they do not further deteriorate. Step two is to properly and carefully prepare all engines worth saving for start up , and then start 'em (or better , drive 'em) , from time to time. Continue adhering to the advice of this greatest automotive support group , many of which members , myself included , are ol' duffers too.

 

You do not want to end up like poor Ron , (see "Update on Ron's cars.." below , posted by nick8086 Dec22). Nor aging , fading , Bernie Long of Bloomington , CA , (East of L.A.) , who advertises in Hemming's. I know Bernie , but have not spoken with him for several months. If he is still with us , his treasure will be intact. I , (and others) , expect that those daughters of his will just have his properties scraped clean and sold ASAP after he is gone. Have you seen pics I have posted of Bernie's place ? Hey ! I'll show you a few to help you by way of support !     Good luck , brother !    - Carl

 

 

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How many cars is enough? The answer is simple........

 

Just one more.

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A friend of mine and I have a theory, that if you have just one old car, you're a little silly, if you have a hundred old cars, you're daft....but if you have 10 or 12, then that's pretty normal.....of course, we each have 10 or 12!!

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One of the problems with living six months in the north and six months in the south is that you have to have twice as many old cars as "normal". Plus double the tools, double the lifts, double the tow vehicles, double the trailers, double the insurance, double the space and double the trouble. Of course, you have twice as much fun.

Now, getting back to what's normal...?

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Perhaps we'd all love to have more cars.  But I feel that,

unless you're accumulating cars indoors

just to save them for future generations, never keep

more cars than you can drive and maintain.  If you 

have a car, or cars, that you didn't drive last year,

you may already have too many.

 

The solution:

(a)  Don't have your cars blocked in your garage.  Access

is important so that a casual drive is an easy undertaking.

(b)  Pare down a collection that's gotten too big;

(c)  The best choice of all:  become active with your club

so you CAN drive and enjoy them regularly.

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I have ten official AACA eligible cars  from 1909 Maxwell to a 1970  Vette plus a 1988 Searay boat and soon to be eligible 1996 Roadmaster used as a tow vehicle. Had a 1984 Motorhome that achieved HPOF original but sold it last year after Hershey and bought new one so I can hopefully spend more time getting and keeping the cars running in stead of working on the motorhome. My pole barn is full as is my home garage. I either need to get rid  of one or add on the pole barn to make room for a shop. Sound like I am just average.

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I'll give a practical answer and say the number of cars is equal to the number of dry garage stalls you have.

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I started out with one, then two, and before you know it they had kids. Sound familiar. Five cars in a three car attached garage is a challange.

Now it's time to downsize come spring.

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Gentlemen,

 In my defense, I can report that I have made every one of my cars driveable (some were really stuck, too). No vehicle remains exposed to the weather.  Problem is, being maxed out, I know I can't buy another and that is torture!

       (Picture is in jest. I'm nuts but not that nuts)

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At one time it was two vehicles, 1937 Dodge truck and a 1964 Plymouth that shared space with 5 vintage motorcycles in a two car garage.  Motorcycles are easy to store indoors compared to cars, plus the wife was not up on motorcycles so adding another was easy!

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I am already culling the heard. 

Two days ago, my 24 Buick Pickup went on the HCCA site for sale.  I also plan to sell my 1986 GMC Caballero (Loaded El Camino).

 

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I agree, if you can't drive them all, you have to many.  Also,

If you don't drive them all, you have to many.

If you can't keep them all inside, you have to many.

If you don't have time or ability to keep them all ready for a drive, you have to many.

if your project car us already over 3 years in process, you have to many.

Currrently @ 8 1/8 cars, 1 motor home, 1 motorcycle, 3 trailers, and still looking at cars and questioning

my own sanity.  A posting member of this support group for a long time.

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48 minutes ago, alsancle said:

I'll give a practical answer and say the number of cars is equal to the number of dry garage stalls you have.

 

I always thought the number of cars you own is equal to the number of garage stalls +1.  In other words, you never have enough room!!

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I agree with having inside storage and having no more than you can efficiently maintain with that storage. Basically the more bucks you can afford to house and keep them, the more you can have. I did a load of downsizing last year and cleaned out a bunch of tractors, early gas engines and antique construction equipment. Got down to an 82 Buick Riv. Convertible, two 1915 Buicks. One running and driving. One in pieces. An Agricat Dozer (9HP Model 23 Briggs and Stratton powered.) A small swing shovel that I built. A 1939 John Deere A Tractor and now a 1925 White Truck that I could not live without for some reason. I can just it as a great parade truck. Rusty but three and a half days of freeing stuck and rusted parts now has it running and driving. Also there are 4 daily drivers at the moment, 3 Chevy Suburban's and a 1994 Buick LeSabre. Dandy Dave!    

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4 minutes ago, trimacar said:

I always thought the number of cars you own is equal to the number of garage stalls +1.  In other words, you never have enough room!!

I've always known that as Rule #1 of Car Collecting.  Rule #2 is that a vintage car, no matter how decrepit, trumps a modern car, no matter how new, for garage space (some exceptions for cold country).

 

In a more serious vein, one space issue is the acquisition of parts which MAY be useful in the future but must be acquired now because they are (1) available and (2) relatively cheap.  This is especially problematic for us city boys and girls.

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1 hour ago, caddyshack said:

I started out with one, then two, and before you know it they had kids. Sound familiar. Five cars in a three car attached garage is a challange.

Now it's time to downsize come spring.

 

Like Noah kept telling the rabbits, Only 2!

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I thought I was done adding but this post has made me realize I am not even up to normal yet with only 3 antique cars, a Jag,  an F250 truck, motorcycle, ATV, camper and three trailers. Wonder what the wife would think about more??

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2 hours ago, Wheelmang said:

I thought I was done adding but this post has made me realize I am not even up to normal yet with only 3 antique cars, a Jag,  an F250 truck, motorcycle, ATV, camper and three trailers. Wonder what the wife would think about more??

 

The Jag should count as four , double the headaches and two times better looking then  most other cars.

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9 hours ago, C Carl said:

Why yes , y'ol' duff' ! ? Yes indeed there is ! And you are already THERE , because you are already are HERE ! ? 

 

In my opinion , step one is to store any of your cars worth saving so that they do not further deteriorate. Step two is to properly and carefully prepare all engines worth saving for start up , and then start 'em (or better , drive 'em) , from time to time. Continue adhering to the advice of this greatest automotive support group , many of which members , myself included , are ol' duffers too.

 

You do not want to end up like poor Ron , (see "Update on Ron's cars.." below , posted by nick8086 Dec22). Nor aging , fading , Bernie Long of Bloomington , CA , (East of L.A.) , who advertises in Hemming's. I know Bernie , but have not spoken with him for several months. If he is still with us , his treasure will be intact. I , (and others) , expect that those daughters of his will just have his properties scraped clean and sold ASAP after he is gone. Have you seen pics I have posted of Bernie's place ? Hey ! I'll show you a few to help you by way of support !     Good luck , brother !    - Carl

If your pictures are of Bernie's stuff, then I would classify him as a hoarder. Yes, there are good parts in those photos, but good luck identifying them & digging them out. It looks like if Bernie could get it & drag it back to his place, he did so & it went on one of the piles. He should have been selling 30 or 40 years ago instead of continuing to hoard. You're probably right in assuming his heirs will have someone come in & clean the place out for scrap. It's NOT the heirs fault if they do. IT'S BERNIE'S FAULT for not taking care of it when he had the opportunity to do so.

If he cares for some of that stuff, maybe he'll sell a bunch of it (cars included) to a single buyer at a good price & it will be saved. Selling the stuff in Hemmings, on Ebay, or any other venue other than maybe an auction is not an option timewise.

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If I had room, I'd have a lot more then the 2 I currently have and since 1 is for sale, I'm making room for a new one :) 

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11 hours ago, crazycars said:

At present, I am up to 15 antique cars ranging from 1915 to 1930, all in need of "something".  I have several acres of land and a huge barn which houses most of the cars but have found it necessary to set up four Harbor Freight portable garages to house the rest. My place is starting to look like the circus came to town!   Some guys can't walk past a beautiful woman without stopping. I can't walk past an old car without buying!  Luckily,I am a pretty skilled amateur mechanic and have a well stocked shop but...

           Is there a support group for guys like me?

                                                           an old duffer

 

I'm up to 9 classified as "Antique Cars" (25 years and older) between 1920 and 1989 and all with long history to me since I can't seem to sell anything! 

As to a support group, have been listening recently to my wife of soon to be 38 years saying, "What are you going to do with those Cars?":o

All have decent parking spots for now and have not deteriorated like sitting outside does but reaching that old duffer stage (depending on your definition - ha ha) has me thinking lately and likely need to accept selling two and move on with a less complicated pressure life. 

Even at (7?) could be too much in my case. Everyone has different stations in life and the economics definitely come into play. 

 

Must say I appreciate you bringing this thread up and appreciate others who have posted their experience and opinions.

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