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Bob Adams was a well known dealer back in "the old days".  He seemed to specialize in high end Full Classics.

 

In the mid 1980's, I owned a 1938 Packard Super Eight 1603, very nice original car, this was the lowest model that year that was a Full Classic.  One day I saw an ad in  Hemmings for a metal trunk that would fit this model, and I called the gentleman about it.  As we talked, he said that he'd bought the trunk for the convertible coupe he had, and he was getting ready to sell the car, in fact it was coming out in the new issue of Hemmings in about a week.  The car was a 1938 Packard Super Eight 1604, convertible coupe, restored and a few years back had taken 99.75 points at a CCCA meet.

 

I asked him how much he wanted for the car, and he told me.  I knew immediately that, if the car were in that condition, he was well under market.  I told him I'd call him right back.  I contacted the CCCA National office, verified that the car was a winner, then called him back and told him I wanted the car and would send a substantial (five figure) deposit, which I did.  I told him I'd need a week or so to come up with the rest, no problem.

 

I was getting ready to wire him the remaining funds, when he called me.  "David," he said, "Are you interested in making $10,000 on the car?" He had a fellow standing in his living room who badly wanted the car, knew what it was sold for (as it was listed in the then-available issue of Hemmings), and made the offer.  The seller's first name was Norman, and I said "No, Norman, not interested, I want the car".  David, he replied, I am SO happy to hear you say that, that tells me it's going to a good home."

 

Later, I called Norman and asked him why the car was underpriced.  He said that Bob Adams was a good friend of his, and he was there when Bob was unloading five Full Classics from a semi trailer.  A dentist had traded all five toward one Duesenberg.  Norman liked the Packard, asked the price, and since Bob had made such a good deal on the trade, sold it to him under market.

 

I still have the Packard.  About 20 years after buying it, I happened to be standing at a space at Hershey, and the vendor said to the man standing next to me, "Here ya go, Mr. XXXXXX", and darned if it wasn't Norman!  I finally got to meet him face to face, and he was pleased I still had the car......but regretted never buying the trunk!!

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On 1/3/2018 at 7:01 AM, alsancle said:

 

The Packard is a 845? 

No. Packard didn't make an 845 phaeton in 1931. It's an 840.

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1 hour ago, West Peterson said:

No. Packard didn't make an 845 phaeton in 1931. It's an 840.

 

The 845 was the custom chassis, correct?

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29 minutes ago, alsancle said:

 

The 845 was the custom chassis, correct?

They just built the limousine and 7-passenger touring on that chassis, and sold a few of those chassis for custom coachwork, but the factory-offered custom coachwork was on the 840 chassis.

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I called the ad on the Cords, I wanted to know what it would take to buy both cars. Seller said 25K buys them both. The open car is a cab/sportsman, missing the top bows, floor cut out for RWD trans tunnel, unknown rear end, unknown front suspension and a chopped up/missing dash. Car is missing the body tag, and titled with the number stamped on the frame(OR title). The sedan is what you see in the pictures. I thought about just driving the 4 hours to go and see the cars, I would have to let go of one of my projects to pick up those. It would take both cars to make a incomplete sportsman. Money would be better spent buying the Auburn Cab that was the all the ////////talk awhile back:) If I was to buy the Cords, I know that I could not help myself, I would build a custom out of the two. A custom open Cord would be really cool, until a person went to sell it. Something about under water automotive scuba diving??? From a custom car guy at heart, I just do not see how you can improve on the 36-37 Cord design. A removable hard top could be made out of the sedan roof, and reshaped to fit the Sportsman, and restore the car from there. But it would need to have the exhaust out the side of the hood, It just sounds like a lot of money going into something that you would get hammered on when you went to sell. I did get my courtesy car on the road. And after a night of really heavy drinking, the two cars look just about the same. 

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Xander please tell me what you were drinking that night as I want to see if it is possible to have an experience like that. Maybe my Studebaker will look like a Bentley or some other magnificent machine. 

Dave S 

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The Same thing that is drunk by every guy at 2 AM when those # 1's.  Start looking like a #10.   Don't you remember the girls all get prettier at closing time?

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Auburn - never had that problem— my future wife walked in the bar about 8pm in a short skirt and great legs and I was a goner! 50 years ago today. 18 days after I came home from across the pond and got out of the army 

Dave S 

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I never drank or drink to this day, so I never had the experience.  But I did save alot of money not doing so for more old cars. 

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2 hours ago, Xander Wildeisen said:

I called the ad on the Cords, I wanted to know what it would take to buy both cars. Seller said 25K buys them both. The open car is a cab/sportsman, missing the top bows, floor cut out for RWD trans tunnel, unknown rear end, unknown front suspension and a chopped up/missing dash. Car is missing the body tag, and titled with the number stamped on the frame(OR title). The sedan is what you see in the pictures. I thought about just driving the 4 hours to go and see the cars, I would have to let go of one of my projects to pick up those. It would take both cars to make a incomplete sportsman. Money would be better spent buying the Auburn Cab that was the all the ////////talk awhile back:) If I was to buy the Cords, I know that I could not help myself, I would build a custom out of the two. A custom open Cord would be really cool, until a person went to sell it. Something about under water automotive scuba diving??? From a custom car guy at heart, I just do not see how you can improve on the 36-37 Cord design. A removable hard top could be made out of the sedan roof, and reshaped to fit the Sportsman, and restore the car from there. But it would need to have the exhaust out the side of the hood, It just sounds like a lot of money going into something that you would get hammered on when you went to sell. I did get my courtesy car on the road. And after a night of really heavy drinking, the two cars look just about the same.

 

25k for both cars is not unreasonable at all. 

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Xander and I could split it.  20G for the Open car and I'll take the sedan for 5,000.  See that makes perfect sense ;)

 

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13 minutes ago, auburnseeker said:

Xander and I could split it.  20G for the Open car and I'll take the sedan for 5,000.  See that makes perfect sense ;)

 

you got the right string, but the wrong yo-yo

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Oh come on.  I could probably give you a pile of parts to help finish it off.  Alteast I could clean that front room out,  they have been hogging up. 

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Besides I have to pay more in shipping So it works out real close! 

well sort of close,  maybe in the neighborhood .  Like that abbot and Costello joke about a buck. 

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Auburn the only way that looks like it will happen is if you get XW drinking that happy juice again 

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1 minute ago, SC38DLS said:

Auburn the only way that looks like it will happen is if you get XW drinking that happy juice again 

then I would not need a Cord. I would all ready have one.

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4 minutes ago, auburnseeker said:

Atleast  until morning, When you wake up and find a pinto in your garage. :)

@auburnseeker you should start drinking. I bet the Jeepster could start looking like a Cord also! It is the last of the real Phaetons. 

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31 minutes ago, alsancle said:

 

25k for both cars is not unreasonable at all. 

I could crank out a car pretty quick out of those two cars. Timing is just very bad right now. 

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27 minutes ago, Xander Wildeisen said:

I could crank out a car pretty quick out of those two cars. Timing is just very bad right now. 

Is timing ever good?  Seems whenever I find the right deal,  it never is. 

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17 hours ago, auburnseeker said:

Is timing ever good?  Seems whenever I find the right deal,  it never is. 

 

But the regrets are always for what one didn't do, not for what they did do.

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