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Rolls Royce Meteor V12 Merlin Spitfire Engine


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Displacement...1649cu in 27 litres, (27,000 cc) 2250cc per cylinder
Type...........60 degree V12, pressure liquid cooled, 4 stroke, 48 valves, geared drive.
Construction...Two-piece Aluminum alloy crankcase.
Cylinder¦ two-piece aluminum alloy cylinder blocks, Hardened steel liners.
Valves€¦ Forged Chromium-Nickel tungsten steel valves, 2 inlet valves and 2 sodium cooled exhaust valves per cylinder, (4 valves per cylinder) seating faces Nickel Chromium coated.
Intake runners¦..ported & polished ex factory.
Camshaft ¦.Single camshaft per bank operates 24 under slung rocker arms with roller followers. Cam driven by bevel gears via inclined shafts.
Crankshaft¦. Forged crankshaft of Nickel-Chromium Molybdenum steel, Nitrided & balanced with fork and blade connecting rods, 7 main bearings, end to end crank lubrication.
Main caps¦ Six bolt mains, 7 Forged Aluminum Main caps, two main studs with two additional traverse cross bolted studs.
Big end bearings¦. Removable steel backed Silver-Lead Indium lined.
Pistons ¦Forged aluminum alloy pistons.
Ignition.......Twin magnetos, twin spark plugs per cylinder.
Lubrication....Dry sump, 60 psi main pressure feed, two crankcase pickups & one pressure pump.

 

I have 3 engines for sale...One is complete, other 2 with some missing parts ....
Price on Request

 

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If I had the resources, I would love to build a speedster around this engine,

and until that future day,

It would be the base for a Glass-Topped Coffee Table-

 

My wife wouldn't object to that, would she?

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3 hours ago, nzcarnerd said:

Is this a reverse rotation marine engine?

According to Wikipedia, there were no specific marine engines built, however, 70 were modified for British marine use:

 

"In 1938, Rolls-Royce started work on modifying some Merlins which were later to be used in British MTBs, MGBs, and RAF Air-Sea Rescue Launches. For these the superchargers were modified single-stage units and the engine was re-engineered for use in a marine environment. Some 70 engines were converted before priority was given to producing aero engines."

 

The American PT boat did not use a Merlin engine, but rather a Packard V-12, or more accurately, three V-12's per boat.  Packard did make Merlin engines under license, and hence the confusion.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Marty Roth said:

If I had the resources, I would love to build a speedster around this engine,

and until that future day,

It would be the base for a Glass-Topped Coffee Table-

 

My wife wouldn't object to that, would she?

 

Ummm, Marty, I think you mean DINING room table, don't you?  Either that, or you drink some darn big mugs of Community coffee!

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6 hours ago, trimacar said:

According to Wikipedia, there were no specific marine engines built, however, 70 were modified for British marine use:

 

"In 1938, Rolls-Royce started work on modifying some Merlins which were later to be used in British MTBs, MGBs, and RAF Air-Sea Rescue Launches. For these the superchargers were modified single-stage units and the engine was re-engineered for use in a marine environment. Some 70 engines were converted before priority was given to producing aero engines."

 

The American PT boat did not use a Merlin engine, but rather a Packard V-12, or more accurately, three V-12's per boat.  Packard did make Merlin engines under license, and hence the confusion.

 

 

 

 

The reason I asked was that this is clearly marked as a Meteor, so is not a "Merlin Spitfire engine". I noted it rotated left - maybe that is the way they all do? Maybe came out of a tank??

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3 hours ago, nzcarnerd said:

 

 

The reason I asked was that this is clearly marked as a Meteor, so is not a "Merlin Spitfire engine". I noted it rotated left - maybe that is the way they all do? Maybe came out of a tank??

 

A quick search proves you're correct, the Meteor was a variant if the Merlin, and used in tanks in the 40's and 50's!

 

http://www.baiv.nl/blog/2017/02/09/limited-quantity-meteor-mk-ivb-engines-available-factory-overhauled-power-pack-with-accessories/

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Last year on the way to Australia's National Packard Rally at Victor Harbor in South Australia called into a small private museum at Binalong (pronounced Bine - along).

 

On display was a Meteor V12, see pic's.

 

And, at the risk of highjacking this thread, also on display was a 1908 MAB powered by a Liberty V12, see pic's.

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On 12/3/2017 at 3:20 AM, nzcarnerd said:

Is this a reverse rotation marine engine?

Yes...they are reverse rotation...
although I dont think they were use in any marine application, but a Tank

I bought it from a WWII Airplane racer, but it seams they came out of a Tank...BUt I m not 100% sure.
The tag on the engine shows that they are reverse rotation.

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I contacted the Warplane Museum in Hamilton , Canada to see if they were any use to them .They said they can only be ONE or the other Merlin or Meteor not both . Not very interested at all they figure they are for a tank . I asked if he could use any parts . You think WW2 was raging for the amount of time he gave me ? 

 

http://www.warplane.com/contact-canadian-warplane-heritage.aspx

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HI Mark. Along those lines , I shall quote Andy , from our Mother Country , who collects antique aero engines , and plays with same powering vintage terrestrial conveyances. Regarding these METEORS : "they are a difficult engine to place in a suitable age related car." I may be going out on a limb here , but I suspect a bit of classical British understatement. If anyone pulls it off , it might be an understatement to say it would be a real show stopper anywhere , and on any forum.   - Carl 

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On 12/3/2017 at 5:36 AM, trimacar said:

According to Wikipedia, there were no specific marine engines built, however, 70 were modified for British marine use:

 

"In 1938, Rolls-Royce started work on modifying some Merlins which were later to be used in British MTBs, MGBs, and RAF Air-Sea Rescue Launches. For these the superchargers were modified single-stage units and the engine was re-engineered for use in a marine environment. Some 70 engines were converted before priority was given to producing aero engines."

 

The American PT boat did not use a Merlin engine, but rather a Packard V-12, or more accurately, three V-12's per boat.  Packard did make Merlin engines under license, and hence the confusion.

 

 

My Dad was a engine mechanic in the Army Air Corps in WW2. He worked on these engines as well as Allison’s and Wright Cyclones and Pratt Whitney. He told me that England could not keep up with the amount of engines needed. Packard volunteered to help with production, and were laughed at by the Brits, being told how this engine was hand built and couldn’t be run down an assembly line. Packard replied, send us the blue prints, we’ll worry about that. They then did the “ impossible “ and ran them down the assembly line. This effort put P51’s in the air in large numbers to escort the bombers from England to Germany and back. Hastening the demise of the Nazi war machine. Many Me109’s and FW190’s were shot from the sky thanks to Packards effort. Whenever Dad refered to this engine, he always called it the Packard - Rolls Royce.

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There is a chap here in Tauranga making a car around a Meteor tank engine. He is using a modified truck gearbox and differential. The plan is to put fuel injection on it. Big car because it is a big engine!

 

There's someone in Australia that has also built one around a Meteor, and he's also built one with a Merlin in a 55 Chev.

https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/feature-cars/1709/rod-hadfield-rolls-royce-meteor-v12-powered-warman-special-review

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1 hour ago, Craig Gillingham said:

 

There's someone in Australia that has also built one around a Meteor, and he's also built one with a Merlin in a 55 Chev.

https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/feature-cars/1709/rod-hadfield-rolls-royce-meteor-v12-powered-warman-special-review

 

There is one in Christchurch, New Zealand, which is a sort 'replica' of the late 1930s Auto Union hill climb car with dual rear wheels. I haven't actually seen it but It was at the Leadfoot Festival earlier this year.

 

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On ‎7‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 6:41 PM, Craig Gillingham said:

They've gone to a lot of effort, there.

 

I spoke to the owner of that "Auto Union' yesterday - I have known him for many years. He said the car is 1 1/2 times larger than the original. That is Rod Millen in the car, wearing the blue race suit. The owner drove it as well but it broke a rear drive shaft when he stalled it and tried to bump start it. 

 

His next project is to put a Bristol Hercules sleeve valve radial piston aircraft engine (look it up) into the back of an early Land Rover.

 

The photo is one of his other creations - a vintage trials special consisting of two Coventry Climax generator engines in an Austin 7 chassis. He drove that again yesterday.

 

 

 

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