Need help with ID of this wire wheel

[McKay8BA]

Could someone kindly ID this wheel for me? Thanks in advance. 

 

 

[emjay]

This manufacturer didn't catch the trend when the hub was increased in diameter to allow the lugs to be hidden inside.  This is the worst of both styles.  Sorry, no idea on the identification.  The spokes don't appear to be welded but are adjustable.  That should make it a bit older.

[nzcarnerd]

I have no idea what it is either. 70 spokes suggests something fairly heavy.  American cars only used 18" either side of 1930. Rolls-Royce and others used them up to WW2.

[gwells]

Seven bolt holes should surely narrow down the list of possibilities, I would think.

[keiser31]

I believe some of the 1929 Chrysler Imperial 80 models had seven lug, 70 spoke wire wheels.

[dpcdfan]

I'm pretty sure 29 Chrysler Model 75 also used that wheel.

[keiser31]

43 minutes ago, dpcdfan said:

I'm pretty sure 29 Chrysler Model 75 also used that wheel.

I think so, too.

[McKay8BA]

Thanks to everyone who is trying to match the wheel up to an automobile. I am trying to downsize the collection I have and a few wheels remain a mystery. Here is a picture with a measurement. Hope this helps. Thanks again.

[Gunsmoke]

Noticed the adjacent wheel, with 6&5/8" hubcap opening, 5x5.5 bolt pattern, 19"dia, matches a set I have for 1930 Marmon, is it stamped Budd on back?

[McKay8BA]

Thought I would post a couple of pictures of the back side of the wheel, just to verify that maybe the Chrysler's mounted this way.

[AG2]

The pictured wheel was manufactured by Motor Wheel Corporation, Lansing, Michigan.  Cataloging shows a few cars using 18" Motor Wheel wires, but does not show how many mounting lugs on each. Width should be measured from outside to outside across both lips, likely making this a "4-1/2".  Listed for 18" Motor Wheel wire wheels:

 

Chrysler models 62, 65, 66, 67, 72, 75 and 80 and CD CG models all within years 1928/1929/1930/1931; (only  models 72, 75, 77 show 4-1/2" width)

Dodge DC8 and DF Taxi both 1930 (no 4-1/2")

Gardner models 85, 95, 130 for 1928/1929/1930 (only models 95  and 130 show 4-1/2" width)

Graham Paige models 39, 45, 615 for 1930, and models 53, 54 for 1931 (no 4-1/2")

Hudson models "Long Wheel Base" and Eight, for 1929/1930/1931 (only 1929  Long Wheel Base shows 4-1/2" width)

Oakland, all models 1930/1931 (no 4-1/2")

Oldsmobile models F29, Deluxe, Export, F30 for 1929/1930, and all models for 1931 (no 4-1/2")

Reo models Wolverine and Flying Cloud Mate 1928, and Flying Cloud Master 1929/1930, and FC Six 25 and Eight 30 & 35  1931 (only 1928/1929/1930 Master and 1931 Eight 30 and 35 show 4-1/2" width)

and (believe it or not)  Viking, all models for 1929/1930 (all show 4-1/2" width)

 

Maybe you can narrow down how many of these used 7 lugs!  /Tim

[keiser31]

1929 Gardner wheel....

[Spinneyhill]

NOT Dodge DC or DF.

 

The Hollander 1952 says 7 on 7" fits 1931-32 Reo F.C. 25, 621, 821, 825 with wire wheels (17x4-1/2" wheels). Also Nash 1932 990 with wires (19x5").

 

Wood wheels with that bolt circle were on the same Reos and Nash.

 

There is no other bolt circle listed with 7 bolts.

 

Unfortunately it doesn't go back beyond this.

Edited December 22, 2017 by Spinneyhill (see edit history)

[McKay8BA]

It has been my understanding that the rim width is inside to inside.  "To get a correct rim width, you must measure from the bead seat (where the tire rests and seals on the inside of the rim)."

[Bfclarke]

McKay8BA,

 

Do you still have these wire that you were trying to identify? If you do I am interested in buying them from. Thank you....Bruce