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  Finished the floor runners, lots of angels there in the connecting  up to the body, but fit up really good  transferred the bolt hole pattern from frame to runners  and put some temp braces in to hold runner spacing so bolt pattern should still match, after I fit it up to the body .Set up some saw horses bolted the cowling to the front of the runners, set moved  body up on the sawhorses and lined up the corners . Tomorrow I'm going to build a wood frame, under the sawhorses so I can level up the lot and tram the body see how square I can get it to be wile the door skins are I'm thinking maybe TIG. weld them in permanent till all body wood frame is fabricated up and glued that way when I cut the tacks the frames are straight and rigid .this might not be the way to go ?? what do you think ??

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My 25-45 body was missing most of the original wood, so I got  measurements at upper & lower door openings from an original car, then made simple wooden supports to hold the sheetmetal in position.  The entire body is sitting on a large pallet.  At first the front doors did not line up correctly with the cowl, so I lowered the back of the cowl 1/8" by replacing the supporting board with a thinner one, and the doors lined up. Once everything was aligned, the door skins hang perfectly in the door openings supported by small C clamps and strips of wood.  Now that everything is aligned,  I am working on making wood patterns from scrap wood starting with doors. Below is a picture of unfinished wood door frame and cutting tenons with tenoning jig.  2 parts are clamped to the tenoning jig to make a perfectly matched pair.

 

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That's neat jig to cut with  . my joints in the corners look long but the steel  bracket sets in the gap I'm trying to just do wood work and trying not to get out my mic out.  Kyle  

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     Your car has a lots of wood I will have to do the same when I'm fixen up my 4 door  . I will take your advice and clamp the doors in but I think I will do both 2 door cars first wile I got my wood shop set up . I'm getting so much saw dust all over the place looks like it snowed in my shop my wife said she wood get her leaf blower out and clean up after me, I think she was kidding though .To day at the machine shop instead of running a lathe I made a nice rolling jig to mimic the car frame. I just hate getting on my knees to work broke the ball off my femur 25 years ago so it gets sore really easy -- Kyle

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     This jig I just made out of some left overs from a job.  I have a 1925 frame at the machine shop so I duplicated the bolt hole pattern on to the 2x2 tubing and some old casters made it bolt together that way I can break it down real small after its not needed till I start the next Buick project . 

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    I get a kick out of disclaimer wife's car !!!     thank you for the compliment.  I am always making some thing I like restoring old pin ball games to  . After I work at my machine shop all day making one off parts  you think I would get tired of making stuff but I just don't like TV .- kyle 

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3 minutes ago, sligermachine said:

i get a kick out of disclaimer wifes car !!!     thank you for the compliment  i am always making some thing i like restoring old pin ball games to  . after i work at my machine shop all day making one off parts  U think i would get tired of making stuff but i just dont like tv 

 

Don't watch too much TV lately.  Too busy trying to get ready for winter and fixing the '15 truck and '08 car, getting ready for touring season next summer.  Might try to work on the '18 truck some this winter also.

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    So how do I find a touring  to go on  I should have this car back on the full time road in a couple months .I know every time it rains I run all over the place and put tarps on all my out side projects . Did you  check out how pretty the vale train is on the motor I was so happy when I puled off the valve cover and put a bore scope down the cylinder  bran new cross hatch.  I was just floating off the ground so happy to see the insides of the motor are all brand new machine work ,but of course the guy that started this ground up restoration and spent 10 years of his free time to get it looking this good wile he also owned a engine rebuilding machine shop .I figured it was spotless in side of their to  .just got back the windshield arms from the chrome shop . looking good- Kyle

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I would recommend joining the VMCCA / Vintage Motor Car Club of America where touring is a way of life.  The local group that I belong to are a great bunch of folks.  My wife and I have had a great time with them.  :)  They are all about having fun and driving the cars.  :)  Nothing more and they do not judge you for the condition of your vehicle,  at least the group we belong to.  Very knowledgeable group that are willing and able to help you get your car running better. :)  They are born to drive.

 

Here is a link to their web site.  http://www.vmcca.org/

 

And application page.  http://www.vmcca.org/join-or-renew/

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Are the door sills shown being remanufactured and if so by whom?

 

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Good question Brian. I know on the 1925-45 the fronts are pretty "roached".  Any direction to a supplier out there?

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     I Will become a member, and take my old cars out for a drive !!! for sure  I made a new set of rear door posts and will do the same for all the other door frames and forward  posts   so I have some in my hand while I test run a few in one of my cnc`s I Will help some guys get their projects moving again God is always watching out for me so I should do the same .Here's how far I got today had to make a makeshift dust collector I have a really big one but its stuck behind my model A 1932 truck right now .

      its so cold don't fill like moving everything around, to get it but I will this weekend  and hook it up with a 5`` hose to all my wood stuff  I like using my band saw most of all to make every cut I use them so often at the machine shop and I have cnc band saws to that makes it fast .this first picture is how I get most of my parts so close my favorite thing to use in my shop play-doh  put it in a plastic bag and push it in the hole and mike it to get the inside dimensions to fit like a glove when I was teaching Aircraft mechanic school  I always showed the students the fastest way to make parts I built one off aircraft for 15 years crop dusters are a lot of fun to make from scratch .I am a self taught machinist just bought a lathe and started playing with it for 35 years making gears is my favorite thing to do I think i'm the only shop in my town that makes them the same day they're ordered all the time  make a blank out of any thing steel brass plastic nowadays I been letting my son run the shop but right now he is gone on his honeymoon .

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On 11/29/2017 at 5:39 AM, Brian_Heil said:

Are the door sills shown being remanufactured and if so by whom?

 

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Huebert -25-25  has new looking ones on his cherry looking Buick where you find those Hue???

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On 11/29/2017 at 7:26 AM, Larry Schramm said:

I would recommend joining the VMCCA / Vintage Motor Car Club of America where touring is a way of life.  The local group that I belong to are a great bunch of folks.  My wife and I have had a great time with them.  :)  They are all about having fun and driving the cars.  :)  Nothing more and they do not judge you for the condition of your vehicle,  at least the group we belong to.  Very knowledgeable group that are willing and able to help you get your car running better. :)  They are born to drive.

 

Here is a link to their web site.  http://www.vmcca.org/

 

And application page.  http://www.vmcca.org/join-or-renew/

 

I second that motion as I am in that same VMCCA Nickel Touring Group as Larry. 

 

PM either of us for the 2018 Tour details. 

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Rootlieb in California made these rocker panels that are nailed to the sills.  The fabricate a lot of Model T and Model A sheet metal.  I sent them my old ones, and they did a nice job fabricating new ones.  There is a very slight curve to them that I wish they had put into them.  Although I had to do that part, I was very pleased with the quality.    Hugh 

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On 11/12/2017 at 3:45 PM, Hubert_25-25 said:

Kyle, 

   You did well finding that much wood.  The inside of the cowl assembly should look something like this.  This is the sheetmetal support for the toe board that is at an angle.  Then notice the routered groove in the Sill.  That holds the floorboards for the front seat.  This is the right front foot well.  

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You should also have a aluminum threshold plates for the doors ( I think) 

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I would think you will need to make the seat support and add wood into the rear around the edges.

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when the seat is lifted up does the whole thing go up including the steel stip ? 

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Kyle, 

   Only the 5 wood boards that you see hinge up.  The photo that you see is from a 1925 Standard, and you have a 1925 Master, so this drawing from Larry shows that your car has 6 boards (plus the 2 slat boards that hold these together.)  Make your seat compartment cover to Larry's drawing and you should be good.  You should have a metal pan under the seat area.  The metal pan and this cover makes up the under seat storage area.  This is where you would store your side curtains.     Hugh

 

 

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Hugh:

 Actually the tools are usually under the seat. Jack, crank, lug wrench etc. On the Master touring the side curtains go in a compartment in the rear of the front seat.

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On our Standards they have to live under the back seat.

On the roadsters there is to be a compartment in back of the seat for side curtains.

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Larry,    Good to know the differences.  I was not aware of that.   Not a lot of storage space so it's good to know where everything belongs.   Hugh

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Seat frame all done I started disassembly of the whole car that did not take to long I'm going to coat all the wood with clear varnish  no one seemed interested in any wood for their 1925 buicks so I'm just going to assemble this car and call it done .I have doubles of almost every part that takes longer than 20 min to make  to program a cnc to make I really figured at least one person would like a set . Best part is my whole wood shop is set up now I have had the majority of this just put away I seem to never take any time off from work for my own fun projects. I had made a set of round wood rizers to hold up the seat frame  but I decided I would rather make it stock as possible so I made a new set like Hue-25-25 car looks really cool . 

Pic. 1 the 4 parts that make the bottom seat frame I made them lap really heavy so that they would never break like a wood boat frame

pic.2 reshaped the cross member under the seat 

pic. 3 that part looks  EZ under the seat right 

pic. 5 I made cuts in the cardboard so it would fold up like a 3.5 x 1.75 bord cut it to fit and used it like a pattern for the 4 angle cut to                 ----make the seat rizer the right shape the first time .

pic. 7 made this seat rizer by setting it on top of 2 spacers same size above the boards using 2 squares to mark the cuts this did not work as good had to sand down to fit .hard to get all 4 angles at same time like this but I took pictures of both ways I will post all of them right under this -- KYLE - ONE INCH AT A TIME 

 

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