Teens touring.

[nzcarnerd]

A car park photo from New Zealand - circa late teens. Any ideas on the big touring, which I would date at 1913,  closest to camera. I see a circa 1915 Studebaker roadster in the middle.

[Craig Gillingham]

I think it's an Oakland, but a 1914 model.There were a few of these that came to Australia, and I imagine they also ended up in NZ as well.

Edited October 17, 2017 by Craig Gillingham (see edit history)

[lump]

Wow, awesome photo! I love that light-colored touring car at left, with the dual windshields! And do I see a metal body strip between the front and rear seats too? Is that "dual cowl?" I realize it's not a classic dual-cowl arrangement. but cool anyway. Is that 2nd windshield an aftermarket accessory, maybe? 

[Craig Gillingham]

Those screens were an aftermarket accessory, I don't know what their proper name is, they are usually referred to as 'Auster Screens' after a common maker of this type of screen, however, they're not all made by Auster. I agree it's an excellent photo.

[DLynskey]

An excellent photo and not a Ford in the lot. You can tell it's not from the states.

 

Don

[Dave Mellor NJ]

I'm thinking Marmon model 34 on that light colored touring,the way the door tops are rolled over

 

 

[keiser31]

Running boards don't curl upward on the lighter car in question.

[Pilgrim65]

Great photo , very interesting, changes my perspective on car ownership of early part of century , Obviously popular in NZ  wonder what percentage of population owned a car.

thanks for posting

 

[nzcarnerd]

The photo is not really clear enough to blow up any bigger unfortunately. The light coloured touring with the Auster screen will be distinguished by the greasing access points below the doors. I would doubt it is a Marmon.  The roadster this side of it has distinctive hubs.

The New Zealand car market was dominated by American makes as they stood up to the poor roads the best. However there were plenty of British and European cars imported as well. It wasn't until after WW2 that tariffs were imposed that favoured Commonwealth built cars. I think New Zealand had a car ownership percentage from quite early on. Here is a sample from the wiki page regarding the NZ motor industry.

 

"The number of cars owned per 1000 persons ^{[note 1][25]}

• 1924: USA 143, Canada 77, New Zealand 71, Australia 23, United Kingdom 14, France 11^[26]
• 1967: Canada 283, Sweden 250, Australia 274, New Zealand 293.^[27]
• 2011: Canada 662, Sweden 520, Australia 731, New Zealand 708. (years:— Canada 2014, Sweden 2010, Australia 2015, New Zealand 2011)"

 

2014 figures here   -   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita

[nzcarnerd]

19 hours ago, Craig Gillingham said:

I think it's an Oakland, but a 1914 model.There were a few of these that came to Australia, and I imagine they also ended up in NZ as well.

 

Yes Oaklands were popular here in NZ and there are several survivors.

[Craig Gillingham]

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The roadster this side of it has distinctive hubs.

Yes, I saw that, it's similar to a Model 32 Hupmobile, although it isn't.

 

I'm surprised to see so many at that point current model cars, when we were at the time (AUS & NZ) in the middle of a war. 1915-18 cars are rare in Australia; there are a few, but not many.

[lump]

Is that a motorcycle sidecar in the right foreground? I really like this photo. 

[Craig Gillingham]

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Is that a motorcycle sidecar in the right foreground? I really like this photo.

Yes, it's a Harley-Davidson sidecar.