Colombia or Spain , probably pre-WWII

[eiblanco]

This picture was taken either in Colombia or Spain, probably before WW-II,  my wife's relative was the Colombian ambassador to Nazi Germany.

[keiser31]

Looks to be a Renault for the first car.

[nzcarnerd]

Renault made a huge range of cars. I reckon this one might be(?) a Model CC from around 1911 - but with modifications to lights and front fenders. The wheels look to be wooden artillery type with disc covers.http://voitures.renault.free.fr/

Edited July 16, 2017 by nzcarnerd (see edit history)

[eiblanco]

Thank you both for your help, yes I agree with nzcarnerd, http://voitures.renault.free.fr/?img=4475

 

I also confirmed that the picture was taken in Sevilla, Spain.

 

And, I also agree, there have been modifications to both the fenders and the lights, I wonder if these cars were finished to the customers specifications.

 

Those wheels are interesting, the hubs are exposed but there are no lug nuts, I tried to find true disc type wheels and they all had the central lugs.

Edited July 16, 2017 by eiblanco (see edit history)

[1912Staver]

As nzcarnerd says,those wheels are probably disk covers over normal wood spoke artillery wheels.  Easier to clean , and didn't collect mud on bad roads. A somewhat common accessory in this era.

 

Greg in Canada

Edited July 17, 2017 by 1912Staver (see edit history)

[nzcarnerd]

24 minutes ago, 1912Staver said:

As nzcarnerd says,those wheels are probably disk covers over normal wood spoke artillery wheels.  Easier to clean , and didn't collect mud on bad roads. A somewhat common accessory in this era.

 

Greg in Canada

Yes you see them on modified Ford Ts of the era.

[eiblanco]

Another point, I think the front wheels are smaller than normal, giving the illusion of higher front fenders.

 

Also the wind screen is a two piece unit, looks like the standard was a flat one piece.

 

Does anybody know the advantage of the rear placement of the radiator in these Renault cars?

[Casper Friederich]

The patented Renault radiator worked under the thermosyphon principle. There is both the air draft from and the suctions from the ventilator on the flywheel. A pipeline connects the ventilator with the radiator. The engine is thus completely isolated from road dust. Introduced in 1903 as Austrian Allgemeine Automobil-Zeitung presented it as a novelty:

http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=aaz&datum=19030913&seite=23&zoom=33

Before that a pair of smaller radiators on the side of the bonnet as on the 14hp that the same magazine told about some months earlier

http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=aaz&datum=19030503&seite=25&zoom=33

Update:I think it is this patent publicated and granted 24.6.1903:

https://patents.google.com/patent/FR327497A/en?inventor=Louis+Renault&before=19040101

Edited July 17, 2017 by Casper Friederich
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