one-shot Posted June 28, 2017 Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I need these bolts for my 37 Plymouth. Any ideas for source? They bolt the lines to the cylinder. Thanks\ Harold Edited June 28, 2017 by one-shot (see edit history)
one-shot Posted June 28, 2017 Author Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) No luck so far. Haven't reached the right ears. Worst comes to worst, I'll make them, have a 10" Sheldon and the skills. Harold Edited June 28, 2017 by one-shot (see edit history)
ArticiferTom Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 Check with Jay go by Pre 1930 Chrysler . He does complete tear downs of rodded chassis . He is on here In Chrysler forum mostly .
one-shot Posted June 29, 2017 Author Posted June 29, 2017 So far no luck, this has to be common problem. NAPA has almost correct copper washers. no groves. I have a plan "B" and "C". I have fixable spares. Harold
ArticiferTom Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 i'm little confused . you did not ask about the copper washers . they should not have the grooves until they are tighten in place , making them grooved . You may want to anneal them softer before install , will seat easier .What is wrong the bolts?
ply33 Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 I don't know of a source, but those bolts were used on all 1938 and earlier Plymouth cars (and on all Plymouth trucks): http://www.ply33.com/Parts/group5#5-66-04 If inquiring about availability, sometimes the vendor will have some for, say a 1930 model, but not know it fits your 1937 too. So it is worth knowing what other makes/models/years used the same part.
one-shot Posted June 30, 2017 Author Posted June 30, 2017 I didn't mean groves I meant ridges on the two different washers. The bolts are pitted from water in the brake fluid from sitting. I think they are available in the dodge truck world. harold
keiser31 Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 5 hours ago, ArticiferTom said: i'm little confused . you did not ask about the copper washers . they should not have the grooves until they are tighten in place , making them grooved . You may want to anneal them softer before install , will seat easier .What is wrong the bolts? The original Chrysler product "crush" washers of the era had grooves in them. The new ones will have to be annealed as you stated. They have no grooves. 1
HarryLime Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 To address the bolt issue. Do a search on line for "banjo bolt". Many appear, but I don't know your size and thread to search for you. Hard to believe you cannot find replacements.
one-shot Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 They are 7/16-20 and about an inch long, a very common banjo bolt. Shoulder copper washer is .83 od plus or minus and .51 id. Second inside washer is .83 od and .43 id. In all the wheel cly I have taken apart, I see at least three head styles, but the working area is pretty much the same. Harold
one-shot Posted July 18, 2017 Author Posted July 18, 2017 I believe I found them in the dodge power wagon world, 79193 is part of their part number. Also have some coming from NAPA on Wednesday. Harold
ply33 Posted July 18, 2017 Posted July 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, one-shot said: I believe I found them in the dodge power wagon world, 79193 is part of their part number. Also have some coming from NAPA on Wednesday. Harold Got a NAPA part number for that? I'd like to add it to my database. Thanks!
one-shot Posted July 18, 2017 Author Posted July 18, 2017 Will give you the copper washers (Both sizes) and Banjo bolt Wednesday.
one-shot Posted July 21, 2017 Author Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) Parts Banjo bolt, copper washers hiding in plain sight. The are available from http://www.vintagepowerwagons.com/ in brake parts. I got (NOS need cleaned up, hand run a drill bit through center of bolt) bolts, washers (Both sizes) and Cly inlet fittings (NOS need cleaned up, beauty under the grease) today. Old catalog had a 12 (for section) in front of Mopar number and new catalog has a CC and Mopar number. The original brake cly is/are also available. you need to know spacing between mounting holes. Front 37 are 1 & 15/16 and rear are 1 & 3/4. Front are bottom inlets and tapped. 7/16-20 and rear the same. Cylinder inlet connections are front 7/16-20 and rear standard metal break lines. Some rear come/are bored 1 3/8s & 1 1/4, same as front. The original rear are bored 1 1/4 & 1 & 1/8. Harold Edited July 21, 2017 by one-shot (see edit history)
one-shot Posted July 21, 2017 Author Posted July 21, 2017 Tom Did the annealing trick. Then vinegar then baking soda. Harold
one-shot Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 Correct copper washers are NAPA UP 3877 and UP 3878. Harold
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