Mass9192 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Hi fam! Need any help or advice I can get. I had a mechanic friend install a PST front end kit and a Addco front sway bar. Got everything done but he said the sway bar was to short by about 2in. What I need to know if there's a certain way to make this work or did I get a faulty one from company. I know someone here has had one put in so please any thoughts or advice on this would really help me to next stage. Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 "Too short" how? Width? Length of the arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Hi joe, he said length of the arms. Did you have one installed in yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Mass9192 said: Hi joe, he said length of the arms. Did you have one installed in yours? No, I'm trying to understand your problem. If you are saying that the arms that run parallel to the centerline of the car are too short, keep in mind that 1) the links to the control arms may not be perfectly vertical, and 2) since this is an aftermarket part, you may be required to move it on the chassis relative to the stock location. Shorter arms on the bar effectively make it stiffer, since the lever arm that applies torque is now shorter. Also, is the shop attempting to install the bar with the suspension at full drop (car in the air supported on the frame? Try it with the suspension at ride height. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Carl Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 ANTI swaybar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Thanks joe, that makes sense to me witch I didn't ask the guy those questions. I'll will check with him and try those things and see if anything changes ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, C Carl said: ANTI swaybar. Yes the front ANTI swaybar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, joe_padavano said: No, I'm trying to understand your problem. If you are saying that the arms that run parallel to the centerline of the car are too short, keep in mind that 1) the links to the control arms may not be perfectly vertical, and 2) since this is an aftermarket part, you may be required to move it on the chassis relative to the stock location. Shorter arms on the bar effectively make it stiffer, since the lever arm that applies torque is now shorter. Also, is the shop attempting to install the bar with the suspension at full drop (car in the air supported on the frame? Try it with the suspension at ride height. Thanks joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, C Carl said: ANTI swaybar. Anti ROLL bar, actually. In fact, if you really want to get technical, it's a transverse torsion bar. Is this where I say "I could care less..." Is it "regardless" or "irregardless"? (For the comically-challenged, that is intended to be a joke) Edited June 3, 2017 by joe_padavano (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 hours ago, joe_padavano said: Anti ROLL bar, actually. In fact, if you really want to get technical, it's a transverse torsion bar. Is this where I say "I could care less..." Is it "regardless" or "irregardless"? (For the comically-challenged, that is intended to be a joke) ? ?? good news joe, went back and did what u said and they where able to put in with no issues smh. Thanks again for the help ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 7 hours ago, Mass9192 said: ? ?? good news joe, went back and did what u said and they where able to put in with no issues smh. Thanks again for the help ?? Great! You MIGHT want to start looking for a more experienced mechanic... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 6 hours ago, joe_padavano said: Great! You MIGHT want to start looking for a more experienced mechanic... Right ? I've decided that ?? That's why I love this organization! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbinator Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) On 6/2/2017 at 8:23 PM, joe_padavano said: Anti ROLL bar, actually. In fact, if you really want to get technical, it's a transverse torsion bar. Is this where I say "I could care less..." Is it "regardless" or "irregardless"? (For the comically-challenged, that is intended to be a joke) Regardless and irregardless are the same identical words. Just like hisself and himself are interchangeable words. Yes, you can buy the genetic brand and save your own self money. Turbinator Edited October 22, 2019 by Turbinator (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I was in a college class in English. After talking a bit about double negatives Teach says "There is no such thing as a double positive". Smart a** in the back of the room says "Yea, yea". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Turbinator said: Regardless and irregardless are the same identical words. Just like hisself and himself are interchangeable words. Yes, you can buy the genetic brand and save your own self money. Turbinator You forgot "hisownself".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimm63 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) No such word as irregardless. Had an Uncle who would visibly flinch when he heard it. On he initial subject: I put a Jamco bar on my 63 with no issues. Edited October 22, 2019 by Zimm63 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 Since this subject got brought up...the sway bar worked out great with no modifications 👍🏼 Here are some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbinator Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 hours ago, joe_padavano said: You forgot "hisownself".... outstanding! Got a big laugh. American malaprop and slang/jargon/ bad English are fun so long asI don’t offend the talker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthcranbrook Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 As I have often said" I could care less, but don't want to put out the effort" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Question. Did the new "anti" sway bar suck the front end down ? Or is that an optical delusion ? Putting a new "bar" on is not a big deal. I stacked TWO "police" version bars (one atop the other by about 2") on the front end of my old '85 Mercury two door sedan, and a station wagon sized one on the back end. That sucker would corner like a go cart. Mike in Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 No it didn’t. My Rivi is lowered. In fact the sway bar gave it great handling. Would recommend anyone with this brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbinator Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 8:28 AM, Mass9192 said: No it didn’t. My Rivi is lowered. In fact the sway bar gave it great handling. Would recommend anyone with this brand. On 10/29/2019 at 8:28 AM, Mass9192 said: No it didn’t. My Rivi is lowered. In fact the sway bar gave it great handling. Would recommend anyone with this brand. Sir, I like the stance-for your car. Turbinator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 Thank you! Here’s a better angle from a week ago before I put her back to sleep til next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbinator Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 The ADDCO 934 rear sway was not wide enough to install in the vicinity of where it should be installed. The bar was not wide enough. The bar was heated and bent 2” wider on each side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 That’s good to know. I installed the one in front. Where do I order the new on for rear? What’s the item number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbinator Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 MASS 9192, ADDCO rear part # is 934 but if it doesn’t fit Why buy it. Maybe Jamco ? To mount the rear sway bar under the coil springs so it’s tucked out of sight the bar has to be 29 1/2” wide. By mounting the sway bar under the rear coil you’ll need a coil spring compressor. A longer grade 8 bolt is needed and patience or luck. Putting the bolt through the backing plate for the coil spring, the hole in the plate, and the hole already in the control arm takes some good manipulation. Pic of the mounting on the rear. By the way my 63 handles very well with the front and rear sway bar. I’m not a hod rod type, but I like the safety features the sway bar pprovides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass9192 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 Thanks! Good to know. I thought maybe they corrected the problem. I like the front one as well. I’ll check with jammco thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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