1946 Lincoln Continental RHD Chasis number plate location

[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

Hi. I see this is an old post but let me try and see if someone could help. I have a 1946 yellow LC BUT HERE IS THE CATCH....it's a right hand drive. I have been having all my days trying to find the chassis number. Further more it has a V8 which is not standard but the Engine number is LcL 350 29857.

 

I managed to determine that the cowl mounted battery box was not standard and took it off, to see the patent pending tag in tact and readable. (I add photos to show more about what I speak about). The engine looking from the front has a pattent pending plate in the middle on the cowling/firewall where the battery box is but on non of the models I could find I could see the break assembly that is on the left. Could this have been assembled of the serial number? is the serial number suppose to be to the left in front of the right hand side driver steering coloumn looking from the inside. Please could someone also give me an idea if the chassis number occurs somewhere else on the chassis and where? Any help guys would be great.

[Tom_Overfield]

The vin number of the car, (vehicle identification number) is located in two places, one on the left (or right)

front cross member, you can usually see it by looking over the fender and down at the cross member, it's on top of that cross member.

 

the other location for the VIN number is one the left rear outer frame rail toward the end of the frame, might be a bit toward the front of that area a few inches, and in your case maybe it is on the right side.  

 

There was also a body # tag on the firewall  and it starts with 66H57 then the next digits indicate the body number. If that tag is missing,  you might try opening the trunk and pull down the trunk gasket on the trunk lid in the middle of the lid just about where the old lock is located. If it isn't rusted to bad, the factory stamped the body number there as the trunk lids were fitting to that car having the same body number.

 

If you need more help, ask away, lots of knowledgeable people on here.  

 

Tom

 

 

 

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[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

Morning. It's 9:38am here. Here is what I found with my dremmel copper brush. 5EH67-302 which on decoding sites i have not been able to get it to make sense. Any advice. Is the vin number so short? I can imagine with low numbers after the war but just asking?

[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

On opening the left rear wheel this is what I found from the inside. Which photo angle am I likely to find the vin number. And is it on the side by the wheel, underneath or on the inside side if the frame? Photos from left to right....front to rear.

[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

On opening the left rear wheel this is what I found from the inside. Which photo angle am I likely to find the vin number. And is it on the side by the wheel, underneath or on the inside side if the frame? Photos from left to right....front to rear.

[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

I have opened the hood and after some chemical cleaning and water compression hose i have found the on the leftside of the engine compartment. Left as in if i was sitting inside. It is on the cross arm. A ammended engine mounting has been done to carry the v8 somewhere along the line. But the code seems to have a hole straight through it. There is a similar hole on the right hand side but no code obviously. And i have done the right rear wheel  frame but no code. What is interesting is that the vin code on the boot lid and cross arm dont match.

[Tom_Overfield]

Morning Peter,

 Ok, the number on your frame crossmember starting with H 15, then the hole, is the start of the Vin number, look further to the right of that hole and see if you can find a couple of more numbers.

 

The number on your boot lid is strange to me, it may be an export number as I cannot find a 5EH67 number listed in any of the sources I have available. The 302 following the 5EH67 number is the body number. The E in that number might indicate Export but that's just a guess on my part.

 

The location of the other VIN number starting with H15 will be on the same side of the car where you found the partial number. On my car which is a 41, that number is stamped on the outside rail just before the two holes back there that the bumper bolts go through. It may be just before, or under that bracket welded to the frame for the leaf spring.  Keep grinding away, you will find it back there somewhere.  If your car has the original transmission, it is also stamped on top of the bell housing ,if it starts with 105, chances are it is the original transmission and that will match your Vin number. To access it, you will need to remove the floor panel covering the transmission.

 

Keep us posted

Tom

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[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

Hi Tom.

 

That number is H15 then the hole then 321. So the full number is H15 321 is that the full number? I have scrapped the whole rear chasis arms down, on the right. nothing. I have scrapped the left only on the side. Will get my helper to put it up again tomorrow and we can check underneath. The suspension support weld. I dont think the car has the original transmission. Mine has a V8 engine in (which is a topic of another discussion with a LC L-350 29857 and it matches with an automatic pushbutton transmission located in the dash. Have no Idea what cars V8 it is. To tell you  the car comes from a collector that passed on to that big fuel station in the sky. Well I am sunburnt as only africa can give. I will proceed onwards tomorrow. So the vin number on a LC 1946 is only 3 digits and then 3 more after the hole. Why they  punched it there is beyond me. The authorities here is probably going to find it challenging as it looks like I changed the serial number or removed a digit. I will bring a hand sander with tomorrow and do the left with a finer sand grain as not to damage the vin if I find it. But keeping record of what I found when. Must say the steel and all very good condition. Look there is rust but for the most part all is fairly strong still but main parts little to none rust it seems.

 

[Tom_Overfield]

Morning again Pete, at least it is here.

 

yes, my bad on the number,  I was headed here to correct but you caught my mistake, but yes, that hole was where one other number would have been, there are 6 numbers in the Vin/ Serial number. Here Is one photo of where my number is located on the drivers side of the vehicle in the rear. It appears your number up front is the same as mine, but lacking just one number. Hard to get to but I think you can at least see where the stamping is, directly under the filler pipe, on the outside of the frame.

 

i looked again at the number on the boot lid, The correct number is 5EH57-302 on first glance it looks like a 6 but it's a 5.   57 designates coupe body.  302 being the body number. 

 

 I looked for the engine stamping number you posted and it was a 350 cubic inch engine manufactured by Chrysler Corporation starting in the late 50s until the early 60s, that's about all I could locate. If memory serves me ( which it often doesn't) Chrysler also had a push button control for the automatic transmission, as did 57 Mercury's.   

 

Tom

 

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[Guest PeterSouthAfrica]

I will keep you posted. Thanks for all the effort and help. Funny qe dont know one another but cars make people meet. Keep an eye. I have got copper wire drill brushes for my drill so tomorrow i am going to take my time and polish the frame until i find it.

 

So pardon my knowledge short fall is the difference between body and chasis number. Thought they would be the same thing? 

 

Peter in Pretoria

[Tom_Overfield]

No Peter, they are totally different, my body tag is stamped aluminum, attached to the firewall with drive rivets,

the number for my car is 16H 56-18.  16H designates it is a 1941, 56 is the designation for a Cabrolet and 18 is the body number, making it a very early 41 Cabrolet.

                                                                           

Your cars body tag would read 66H-57-320.      66H=  1946 Lincoln Continental      57=Coupe.  Body number 320