Gary W

1937 Buick Model 48: RESTORATION HAS BEGUN! (Photo)

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December 11, 2017:  11 months ago today I started the restoration.

 

Today marks 11 months since I first cleared the garage and removed the license plates and the bumpers from the car to start this fantastic journey.

 

I have nothing to report tonight except where I'm at today:

 

 

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January 11, 2017:  Centered in the garage and ready to be restored.

 

 

 

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December 11, 2017:  Although there is still a list of things that need to get accomplished, I feel like I'm in pretty good shape.  

I'm hopeful the interior kit will be delivered soon.  After that, it's bumpers, hood, trunk and doors.  (And everything related to those things)

I'm going to polish up the door sill plates, get the rest of the stainless polished and store it inside until ready.

Still need to finish wiring the heater/defroster, triple lamps and radio.

 

All in all, a very productive and rewarding 11 months.  A sincere "THANKS" to all the enthusiasts out there!  

For someone who was a "newbie" just a year ago, this forum has been priceless.

 

Have a great night out there!

Gary

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Looking better all the time Gary!! My car is stored 3 blocks away or I could get a better photo of the gas cap. DSCF6201.JPG.6adb57d9b82b2ea475c596be10ca1dde.JPG

 The reason it sits so low was that my son decided to "help" me one day and take the gas tank out. We did not realize at the time that the filler neck unscrewed from the elbow. He tore the elbow off at the tank. When the radiator shop cleaned my tank they soldered it not quite back where it belongs. I had to cut down the original grommet for the cap to close and vent. Also I believe that the cars were assembled with the fuel tank in the frame before the body drop and fenders attached. My cap is painted body color. Chipped paint reveals the original CORRECT HAMPTON GREY..(Ok ...your car looks beautiful in BLACK!) I believe I do have a period correct locking gas cap chrome plated that is the same size.

 While I was looking at this photo reminded me to ask... do you have the sheet metal  gravel deflector that mounts on the rear bumper? I have one that still needs straightened to mount on mine.

Larry

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Larry..  

 

Three things I asked Santa for...  Rear Bumper Gravel Deflector, a nice set of Engine Pans and a properly working headlamp switch.

 

(If anyone out there is reading between the lines..... )

 

 

Was the gas cap originally painted body color?    I was going to buy the chrome plated locking one also, so maybe I'll just go that route.

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Gary,

 

I have some extra sheet metal. Give me some time to look through it. I might have a decent set of 40 series engine pans. I also need to see if 1937 and 1938 are the same. If so and I decide to part out the chassis of the car I brought home yesterday, I might have a set there. 

 

The gas cap on a 1937 was originally chrome or stainless steel. It was not painted. I think that your current one might be a 1938 cap that would have been hidden. The 1937 cap looks much nicer because it is meant to be seen. 

 

I suspect Dave Tacheny would have all of these that you need. If not, the gravel guard is reproduced. 

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Gary,

 

I must have missed a step.  Did you change the original Tripp lights out for the ones that you have mounted on the bumper brackets in the second photo?  They look different than the ones in the pictures back in the beginning.  Did you replace the originals or did you rebuild them?  I noticed that they look "slimmer" than the originals and that the clear lenses have a blue "logo" (or the likes) in the middle.  I will have to be more observant in the future ! 

 

Great work and even though the holidays are upon us, I am sure that the Buick is still occupying your thoughts.  Sneaking away to do a little work here and there.   We were amazed when we saw you in your formal dress out in the garage (before you left for the party), hanging the fenders with your sons.  THAT IS DEDICATION ! !

 

Looking for the next post.

 

Randy

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Gary, 

 

I know that the 1937 and 1938 switch have different part numbers. From my limited reading, I think that the theory of operation is identical on both switches. I suspect that they could be easily interchanged. I would think that Dave Tacheny could answer that question. I don't recall if you checked with Dave to see if he had a switch. If he does not have one and a 1938 switch would work for you, I think I should have a good extra one that you could certainly buy for less than the one on Ebay. It will take me a day or so to inventory everything that I just picked up. 

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Hi Matt.

I think we determined the difference is the overall length of the part.  

What I labelled "S" is for 1937

What I labelled "C" is for 1938

 

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If I use the longer switch, I'll also need a longer pull rod to actuate it.

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Is there anything under the dash that would argue for or against either switch?  Seems a peculiar change to make, unless they were just standardizing the switch across multiple marques or something.

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Tuesday December 12, 2017:  Fuel Cap and Air Cleaner

 

Little things but really nice before and after photos.

 

But First;

Randy: The lamps the car came with were non-functional decorative shells only.  No guts, no wires, no sockets and very rusty throughout.  So I got these with the Buick Logo in the center.

Matt:  If you decide to part out the car, keep me on your list for the pans and the light switch.  I really like the engine pans installed.

KongaMan:  I don't see anything under there that would necessitate the design change.  But I don't have a '38 to compare it to.

Tom:  Thanks for the heads up.  Do you think $150 is too much for that switch?  I don't know what they go for, or what is a fair price?

(I purchased a rebuilt one for only $30, but it doesn't work properly so maybe you get what you pay for??)

 

 

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I swapped out that other gas cap for this chrome reproduction with the lock.  It really is a nice heavy part.  Looks soooo much better.

 

 

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Air Cleaner BEFORE.

 

 

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AFTER. Bob painted it base / clear to match the horns.

 

 

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BEFORE photo of the air cleaner and the condition of the engine bay.

 

 

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Tonight.  A year later.  Amazing transformation of the entire area.

 

 

Have a great night and keep the advice pouring in!

Gary

 

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The '38 light switch is longer than the  '37 as you show. So they are different.  Is there anything under the dash on your '37 that might interfere with the longer '38 switch?  I know that the switches in my '38's bring the wiring very close to the dash, so I'm almost positive that a '37 switch wouldnt fit a  '38, however, the other way around may be OK.

 

Are you going to do the seat upholstery yourself too?

 

Don

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Gary:

 I thought I mentioned that I had a set of side pans for a 37 special. I will check as I remember degreasing them to take to Hershey.

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Gary:

 Your GM locking gas cap looks much better than what I have. What is the make and part # for your fan belt? I have tried several belts but none fit quite right.

Larry

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Gary, Yes, I think the switch is way too high, but it has a make offer. If it was NOS, maybe, but being used it may not be any better than the one you have.. seller does have a 30 day limit on refund.. I like the gas cap, got one for my `36..   Tom

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Larry;

I'm looking for a nice set of pans so if you have a set, let me know.

Also:

The gas cap is from CARS, Inc. here in NJ:  Part # GC346L.  It is a nice quality reproduction.

Fan Belt is NAPA, Part # 25 - 24457

 

 

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Gary, you are doing a great first class job. Car looks beautiful black.

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Wednesday December 13, 2017:  Door Sill Plates

 

Today I woke at 3:00 am.  Left the house at 4:00 am sharp and drove to Boston to pick up my oldest son from college.  

After packing the truck, (3 flights up!) then a quick run to see my daughter (also in college in Boston) I drove home.

I was tired after all that, but I did manage to take on a small Buick project when I got home:  The door sills.

 

 

 

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Flashback to January, 2017:  Driver's side.   All the detail is pretty worn off from the driver entering and exiting for 80 years.

 

 

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Passenger's side.  Hard to see, but the sill paint is all over the outer side of this door sill plate.

 

 

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Tonight:  Condition of the underside of the sill plates. Close-up

 

 

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Pulled back a little.  The side labelled is the passenger side, but after I cleaned them, I saw that they actually have two different part numbers stamped in.

 

 

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The "up" side.  Driver's worn out (top photo).  The passenger's side still has some original paint in the grooves.

 

 

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To clean the underside, I went out to the shed and used my trusty wire wheel.  Nice and easy here, light touch.

 

 

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The up side required an hour of scrubbing with Bon-Ami, Cameo and Quick-Go right in the kitchen sink.

 

 

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After cleaning and scrubbing.  I wasn't 100% satisfied with the edge that's going to show when the door is opened.

It is smooth, but 80 years of crud, rust, blemishes.... It doesn't show nice.

So, what I decided to do was wipe It down with acetone and.....

 

 

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I used this "Aluminum" color paint and primer combo and gave them a quick coat.

I realize there are still a few dents, but this paint evened everything out.

 

 

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They look so much more presentable now.

 

 

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Installed.

I know I don't have the detail highlighted with black paint, but the detail is completely worn off the other side so I may just leave It like this.

 

 

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Another view of the installed part.

 

 

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Again...  a couple little dents remain but I think the end product came out nice.  Certainly an improvement.

 

 

 

I'm ready for bed!   Long Day

Have a great night out there

 

Gary

 

 

 

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Three things:

- You shoulda let the kid drive you back from Boston. ;)

- It's the silly things like the detail in the sill plates that make these cars so cool.  There's no reason to ever emboss that design rather than using a plain strip.  But they did.

- I used that very same paint for car roofs the on the Christmas train:

 

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My door sills are exactly the same design, and now they are just like yours (no black paint in the grooves) after I cleaned them up.  I’ve seen how you used your accent paint technique many times on other parts with black paint in the grooves, and I wondered if it would work on the sills.  It may, but it would also be much more tedious than anything else you have done.

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Gary,

 

If you are interested, there is a guy who reproduces those sill plates. I have his card if you are interested in his information. He sells them for less direct than they are from the usual suppliers. 

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Gary,

 

What is so nice is that the fellow Buick owners all pitch in to help with puzzling issues and make the restoration issues much less time consuming.  They all come together to help you in your quest for finding parts and help with questions regarding fitment and application. 

 

We are coming to an age where the elders will not be here in the distant future.  It is inspiring to see a "younger" individual going the distance and bringing this fine car back to excellence.  Your sons (and daughter) are lucky to have a talented dad that is passing on to them a passion that is shared by far fewer these days than a decade or two ago.   

 

The bulk of the younger generation do not have the resources (or interest in a lot of cases) to do this kind of work.  Restoring a Mazda Cosmo or a Toyota Cilica (in my mind) is testament to the fact that these older cars that littered the landscape a few decades back are not as abundant and are harder to find. 

 

You are a bonafide "keeper of the flame".  Excellent work to be proud of.  We all marvel at your perseverance and talent.  Keeping the flame burning bright for our hobby gives us all hope for the future.

 

Kudos to you.

 

Randy

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13 hours ago, Randiego said:

 

We are coming to an age where the elders will not be here in the distant future.  It is inspiring to see a "younger" individual going the distance and bringing this fine car back to excellence.  Your sons (and daughter) are lucky to have a talented dad that is passing on to them a passion that is shared by far fewer these days than a decade or two ago.   

 

The bulk of the younger generation do not have the resources (or interest in a lot of cases) to do this kind of work.  

 

Randy

 

Very fine points to make, and great to see the family interest in the restoration. 

 

My interest in the Buicks I have came from my Grandfather, and I am very grateful! 

 

While this thread is about a vintage that is not my particular favorite, I can surely appreciate the work, skill and motivation.  I am thankful for the effort on making this thread so thorough, in addition to the restoration of the car itself.  I have learned a lot. 

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