Randiego Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Gary, When cutting out the "pizza slices" from the corners, BE SURE that you have at least 1/3" of material that is on the back side of the panel. This ensues that you do not have the material "creeping" back to the edge of the board and then exposing the panel. As careful as you are, I am sure that will not be an issue. Without seeing an auto upholsterer for him (or her) to give you tips, as smart as you are, you can figure this one out. This is not rocket science, just taking your time, as you always do, and cutting carefully. Having all that material in the corners always is an issue and getting it to lie flat gives the look of a professional job. Lucky you that you got to do a "trial run" before the material arrives. Randy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul White Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Hi Gary, Don't know about anybody else but I am experiencing separation anxiety, its been almost three weeks since your last post! Cheers Paul 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 Hi Guys! I just returned from vacation. Took the family to Italy for the Easter break. Beautiful country but it's great to be home! Still no word from LeBaron Bonney but I'm hopeful my interior kit arrives soon. I can't wait to get back to the Buick. So close to the finish line! Stay tuned! Gary 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Gary, I hope you don`t have to wait like I have, I placed my order with LBB December 19th and nothing yet.. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlcokc Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 interesting. I ordered interior for my 1936 yesterday and was told I would have it by middle of May. Supposed to expedite the headliner. Hope I don't have the delays you guys are discussing Have really enjoyed the detail of this thread and attention to detail. Great historical record of restoration. thanks for your efforts Gary. Rod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I received notice this morning that my LBB kit will arrive tomorrow, just shy of 16 weeks from placing order... I`m happy anyways.. Hoping I`ll still be happy after opening box.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 We were in Firenze and Roma last April with a side trip to Siena and a stop in Orvieto. It was an incredible trip. Of course we weren't there nearly as long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 I just got an e-mail from LeBaron Bonney. The "2-N" fabric (The "2-N" is the brown fabric that faded to green) is done and getting its "backing" before LBB gets it. They expect to take delivery in 1-2 weeks, and my kit is first on the production line. So, it looks like I'll be waiting another few weeks for my kit to arrive, but at least I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! In the meantime, I'll keep practicing with the kit I have. I want to learn how to get the panels nice and taut and use my "trial kit" as a template for the final installation. Tom... Glad to hear your kit is being delivered soon! I'll be watching you install it!! Have a great day out there Gary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 It's good to know what's going on. It's a shame a supply issue is going to hold things up. Now that I'm back on here and caught up a bit, I sense I'll be going into withdrawal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967 - 1997 Riviera Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Now that you are "marking time" until the arrival of the interior beautification materials, I wanted to revisit a subject I think you mentioned about one year ago. And that is the matter of an engine oil filter. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that in 1937 a canister type, engine oil, bypass filter was still an option, and not a standard feature. I think it was used to filter oil initially headed to the rocker arms and shaft. Some restorers have chosen to add such a filter if their Buick didn't come with one. What have you decided to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 On 3/30/2017 at 12:50 PM, 1967 - 1997 Riviera said: Now I'd like to see just how you put the new, full-flow oil filter arrangement together. And what (spin-on?) filter you have chosen to use. Somehow last year, (March 30, 2017 to be exact), I think my thread got a little mixed in with another regarding a full-flow oil filter. I didn't install an oil filter in the engine. I actually never knew it was even an option for this engine. I overhauled the block and restored it as close to factory as I could. I change my oil in all my antique cars every 500 miles or once every year regardless of mileage. So I'm sorry, but I cannot add any information regarding oil filtration for this engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 hours ago, 1967 - 1997 Riviera said: Now that you are "marking time" until the arrival of the interior beautification materials, I wanted to revisit a subject I think you mentioned about one year ago. And that is the matter of an engine oil filter. Others can correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that in 1937 a canister type, engine oil, bypass filter was still an option, and not a standard feature. I think it was used to filter oil initially headed to the rocker arms and shaft. Some restorers have chosen to add such a filter if their Buick didn't come with one. What have you decided to do? Riviera, If you`ll go to Buick-Modified and read Ben Bruces "Modified 263 for my 51D" He tells and shows how he put a full flow filter system on his inline 8(263).. starts on pg2 post #43.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 As far as I know, in 1937 oil filters were neither standard, nor available as an option. The service manual indicates, "The clean oil supply obtained by the use of floating screen makes the oil filter used on previous models unnecessary." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Saturday April 14, 2018: Sharing some photos outdoors The temperature got up into the 80's here this weekend so I dropped my plastic crate behind the wheel and drove the Buick out into the cul-de-sac to take a few photos. It's such a beautiful time of year with the dogwoods and bradfords in bloom. It's a small "bloom" window and I didn't want to miss it! The paint really looks nice out there, almost looking blue as it reflects the sky. As shaky as it is sitting on a crate and pushing the pedals, boy it feels nice behind that wheel! Enjoy! Hopefully only a couple of weeks to the finish line!! Have a great week! Gary 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pplaut Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 What windshield stripping did you use? This looks much narrower and better than what was on my original 36. Thanks! ~P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 The rubber is from Steele Rubber. The one in the catalog that is correct for my car. It fit very nice, as does all their rubber items! Here's the link to the windshield install with the rubber seal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stooge Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Gary, your car looks absolutely beautiful and looks even better accented by the nice spring background that has taken much to long to get to the northeast! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randiego Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Gary, Being on the South West Coast, we do not have Dogwoods or Bradfords out here. (We have other blooming trees). You have done a magnificent job on your Buick. It would be nice to see the Buick in it's first show back there. We just had our La Jolla Motor Car Classic. It is a concourse show and your Buick certainly would have taken first in the "Pre War Domestic" catagory. Randy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwheel21 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Gary, absolutely, beautifully, fantastically gorgeous!! What a lesson in restoration education for all to see... best comment was the better than when it rolled out of the factory reference! Truth!! PS- A buddy of mine who's following along said this... "That Buick is Gangster!! Does he have a Tommy gun to go with it! HA!" I loved somewhere in this "thread" (more like an encyclopedia) where somebody said to another member, there's a picture in section "X page 63..." For most mortal folks....no. Keep it up brother...!! Hey- do you still have the ('64?) VW Ragtop? Could you email me a picture? Thanks bro... love ya! #1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27donb Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, kwheel21 said: Hey- do you still have the ('64?) VW Ragtop? Wait... What? VW ragtop? Have you been holding out on us Gary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, 27donb said: Wait... What? VW ragtop? Have you been holding out on us Gary? 27donb, I think Kwheel21 was refurring to your post on pg46 post 1126.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 The Bug: "Ingrid" 1967 Volkswagen Convertible Karmann Body (Cabriolet?) Quick story: 14 years ago (2004), my younger brother was just turning 40. His wife asked me to find "the red convertible you guys had when you were in college" as a surprise for his 40th. She gave me about 9 months advance notice, and I found a beauty. It had only 8,011 original miles. No rust, no rot, all original and runs like a top. The owner put some chrome do-dads on it, I did a complete brake job, installed new tires and put a newer 1971 carburetor on it. It's been 14 trouble-free years since. The car is a blast to drive! I never mentioned it because technically, I'm only the caretaker. The car was stored at my house from 2004 to November 2016 when I purchased the Buick. I kept it detailed, running, maintained...... took care of it like it was my own! Now it's at my mom's house. She has a two-car garage. I hope to build a garage soon so Ingrid can join her "sisters" once again! This was the "line-up" when she was with me. July 2017 at Monmouth Park car show. Gary 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95Cardinal Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Gary, that car is looking fantastic. Congratulations! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27donb Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Gary W said: The Bug: "Ingrid" 1967 Volkswagen Convertible Karmann Body (Cabriolet?) Quick story: 14 years ago (2004), my younger brother was just turning 40. His wife asked me to find "the red convertible you guys had when you were in college" as a surprise for his 40th. She gave me about 9 months advance notice, and I found a beauty. It had only 8,011 original miles. No rust, no rot, all original and runs like a top. The owner put some chrome do-dads on it, I did a complete brake job, installed new tires and put a newer 1971 carburetor on it. It's been 14 trouble-free years since. The car is a blast to drive! I never mentioned it because technically, I'm only the caretaker. The car was stored at my house from 2004 to November 2016 when I purchased the Buick. I kept it detailed, running, maintained...... took care of it like it was my own! Now it's at my mom's house. She has a two-car garage. I hope to build a garage soon so Ingrid can join her "sisters" once again! This was the "line-up" when she was with me. July 2017 at Monmouth Park car show. Gary Wow that's a beauty! Some say 1967 is the best year to own... Still has the old style look with the towel bar bumpers, has some one year only unique parts, and has the increased ease and reliability being the first year of the 12 volt electrical system. I prefer 1962...first year of the slightly larger taillights... First year of the in dash gas gauge... Last year of the front hood Wolfsburg Crest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Back in the early `70s I put myself thru college buying/fixing/selling VWs. Almost all were engine problems, mainly from a previous mechanic not knowing what he was doing, over torquing head bolts which resulted in pulling the threads from the block, and the other thing is sheet metal baffles that control the flow of air for cooling around the cylinders were left out. I also think that most VW owners were not aware of the marks on the speedometer, for which gear you should be in for cooling purposes. I`m still a little bug fan!! Tom 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Gary, how is it that two cars have the same license plate number? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I will have the same situation with my (2) 1925s. PA and NJ had front and back matching plates into the 1950s. I keep the period year of Manufacture plate on the front while the current antique registration plate is on the rear. I will put the rear plate on the front of the other car as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27donb Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 13 hours ago, Gary W said: I hope to build a garage soon... Gary I like how you subtly slipped that in Gary... I will be watching the forum for the thread on that project too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlcokc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Gary Attempting to install my windshield on my 1936 special. Looked back at your entries and find at page 26 you installed the two piece glass but can't find any entry showing installation of the center divider/molding for the windshield. I have my rubber molding on the two piece windshield and placed the molding in the middle and was going to install as one piece. I note you installed the glass with rubber seal first and apparently installed the molding at a later time. Interested in how you installed the center divider/molding and if any secrets to getting it in place. I have made one attempt to install windshield and without molding think it would be easier to get it in but was worried about getting that center divider in. Do you have recollection of how you got the molding piece in? Thanks Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 I got a matching set of 1930 plates, and had them restored. ( By the way, the "M" is for Monmouth County, so I considered myself lucky to find these!) I keep the registered "QQ" Historic plate on the back, but for the car shows, I put these up front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, rlcokc said: Gary Attempting to install my windshield on my 1936 special. Hello Rod! I installed the windshield center division channel AFTER the windshield glass was installed. The night before I installed the windshield, I stretched the new rubber gasket around both glass pieces and set two 1/4" MDF blocks between the panes to create a gap and give the new rubber seal a little stretch. Set your glass / rubber seal over the lower pinch weld first, then using a string or glass tools, pull the rubber gasket out from under the glass and around the perimeter of the glass to seat the new rubber gasket, without the center division. Now the glass is set in position, what I did was to CAREFULLY place the 1/4" block back between the panes to again create the gap for the center division channel. If you have helpers "pulling" the glass to the edges to create the gap, it is easier to place the "spacer" block in position. I used new rubber from Steele for the center division channel. It had to be tapped first because there was rubber in the threads. DO NOT TAP THE HOLES with the rubber assembled. Tap the holes with the rubber out on the bench. The metal is a very very soft brass material that easily bends when the screws bottom out! So, after the metal was re-painted, slide the rubber into the channel. (Silicone helps here). I had two metal parts for inside the car. A strong steel "base" that goes under the softer, woodgrained part for support. I used silicone over the rubber, slid the rubber between the panes and started pulling the division channel slowly using the screws. Little by little, it will pull it tight. Now, according to the book, the center division channel goes in AFTER the garnish molding, and before the rear view mirror. So, I will once again remove my center channel when it's time to install the garnish molding. But for now, it is keeping the space correct. Couple Photos: (Of course!!!) The night before glass install. The two 1/4" MDF blocks helped stretch the rubber and maintain the gap. Sliding the lower rubber over the pinch weld. John was pulling the rubber out to make the seal. One MDF block still in the gap, but I actually removed it to ease the glass install. Installing the center division channel. I used silicone on the new rubber, began pushing it into the gap. On the inside, you can see I just started running the screws in. I caught one screw and started tightening it. Then I moved to the next center one, and so on. It will slowly draw into position. You see the wood grained part. There is a steel backer plate under this cosmetic piece that gives it a rigidity. Installed center division channel. . 1937 Shop Manual. Notice the garnish molding goes in BEFORE the center division channel. But, being I cannot install the garnish until my interior arrives, I figured it will keep the glass positioned properly in the meantime. Hope it helps!!! Gary 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwheel21 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 16 hours ago, Gary W said: The Bug: "Ingrid" 1967 Volkswagen Convertible Karmann Body (Cabriolet?) Quick story: 14 years ago (2004), my younger brother was just turning 40. His wife asked me to find "the red convertible you guys had when you were in college" as a surprise for his 40th. She gave me about 9 months advance notice, and I found a beauty. It had only 8,011 original miles. No rust, no rot, all original and runs like a top. The owner put some chrome do-dads on it, I did a complete brake job, installed new tires and put a newer 1971 carburetor on it. It's been 14 trouble-free years since. The car is a blast to drive! I never mentioned it because technically, I'm only the caretaker. The car was stored at my house from 2004 to November 2016 when I purchased the Buick. I kept it detailed, running, maintained...... took care of it like it was my own! Now it's at my mom's house. She has a two-car garage. I hope to build a garage soon so Ingrid can join her "sisters" once again! This was the "line-up" when she was with me. July 2017 at Monmouth Park car show. Gary Another Beauty! Thanks Gar... Remember the "Electric Banana?" '71 Super Beetle in Canary Yellow with no heat? But, it had headers... that was important. To pop wheelies... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pplaut Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I am ordering replacement glass for my car. What color was the factory glass back then? My 36 glass has a greenish tint to it, but not really sure. Also, if the factory glass was tinted were ALL the windows tinted? Yours looks clear. I want to get as close to original as possible. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary W Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 I don't think the glass was tinted originally. When I ordered my full replacement set of glass for the car, I was informed it comes "factory clear laminated safety glass". I believe he said I could get a tint at an additional cost, but I wanted it original so I simply ordered a clear set. I cannot find any corroboration in any of my manuals one way or another, so I went with his advice. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pplaut Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 @Gary W Thanks for your reply. I wanted green tint, but it is not period correct. Plus, I'm not sure how it would really look. They offer a gray smoke, which might work on the back and two rear side windows and everything else clear. But, in the end, I will probably go clear. While this car will for all practical purposes look original. My empty wallet is a testament to this I did not know what I was buying at the time. Everyone around here said, "oh those 2 door 36 Buicks are dime a dozen." Then I tried to buy body parts. LOL Anyway, I was planning on driving it as a marketing piece for one of my companies. Once I found out what I had, I decided to do it right. This, of course, was after we squeezed an updated LS drivetrain in the thing. Remember, I was going to drive it to market one of my companies and I wanted it reliable. The Old Balby Weed Co. So, now everything is original steering wheel radio, etc. All has been refurbished. I have a charcoal and light gray leather interior going in... But from the outside, with the hood down, it is going to be authentic right down to the metal fleck paint they had in 36 which I uncovered under the horns. This is when I began to wonder about the car... Oh, yea, and well, with over 300HP to the rear tires, they are a little wider, but everything fits under the fenders. And, sigh, the original hubcaps won't fit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 She’s really looking beautiful Gary! Love all the wood grain on the dash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, pplaut said: What color was the factory glass back then? My 36 glass has a greenish tint to it, but not really sure. Also, if the factory glass was tinted were ALL the windows tinted? The old glass had a layer of plastic or something in it that turns green with age. My 1939 Studebaker had the same thing going on. The colour was strongest near the edges. On cars that are really far gone you can see this stuff has gone cloudy. I think there was a picture of one somewhere recently, perhaps in the "What is it?" forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summershandy Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 JUST stumbled on Gary's work progress...you sir are a beast! Total respect on all the work you've done. Magnificent machine! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAS VEGAS DAVE Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Gary, I thought I would let you know that I am also a VW guy. Mine is a 67 that I bought from the original owner, she bought it new when she was 20 years old. I also bought one new in 1967 the same color ZENITH BLUE as this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randiego Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Gary, Any more news from Le Barron Bonney regarding when they will get you the upholstering kit for the Buick? I am concerned as I am awaiting my fabric for my 36 Pontiac. How long did it take for the fabric to show the issue with it changing color? They do not have the "kit" for my coupe but I have a very talented upholsterer who can "build" my seat and door panels. Plus, being a business coupe, there are flaps and a compartmented shelf area behind the drivers side that traveling salesmen used to keep their forms and other items stored in. Behind the passenger seat was the spare tire, jack and handle. The shelves and flaps are still intact so he has them for duplication. The headliner may be something that I can do. We will see. Hopefully, it won't be too long till the material comes in. Are you doing any other items on the car while you are waiting for the fabric to arrive? Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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