rodneybeauchamp

Kill switch for 63 Riviera

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Most today DON'T use the cigar lighter. Dis-connect the incoming wire & hook-up the extra wire from the distributor to the bottom of the lighter. Push in the lighter & the system is grounded. Pop the lighter up one notch & the circuit is free to work as designed. NO switch to hide.

Another thing. If you look next to the junction block you will see a yellow & purple wire in a 2 wire plug. They go to the starter. The purple is for the starter solenoid & the yellow is for the 12 volts to the coil while cranking. '63 doesn't have the yellow wire I believe. If you jump the purple wire to the stud where the battery cable goes you can get the starter to crank independent of the key. Down at the starter I cut the purple wire & run it to a starter button. This starter button is under the rug in fairly close proximity of the dimmer switch. While trying to crank the starter over with the key you step on the starter button at the same time & the starter will now turn.  Even IF someone knows about this purple wire at the junction block they will NOT get the starter to crank. UNLESS you know the starter button is under the rug I dare just about ANYONE to find it. IF they did it would now take two thief's. They could look ALL day. As long as the button doesn't make a lump in the rug it will be UNDETECTABLE.

Just one of the ways I do it.  No switches to hide that are an easy access for you thief's will also know where to look. These techniques only stop the opportunists NOT the guy that's intent on stealing your car by loading it on a flat bed truck.

And in an emergency "have I flipped the switch the correct way???"   Just pull up on the lighter or even remove it.  Damn, where did I put that darn  knurled knob???   Just step on the starter button.

 

 

Tom T.

 

 

 

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It seems to me that if you're at the point of worrying about a kill switch, you must not have much else on the car that needs attention. ;) 

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These are things I have done to customers cars that have been stolen & recovered more than once.

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18 hours ago, offdensen said:

I've been weighing my options for a kill switch but in the mean time I've always just opened the hood and taken the coil wire out. Ain't going anywhere without it, at least I can hope 

That is absolutely true and 100% effective. I knew of that option. Sometimes I go out dressed up a little better than usual. I don’t want to get my hands dirty and/ run the risk of getting grease on my clothes. The Mrs. will rag on me for getting dirty.Ha!

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12 hours ago, KongaMan said:

It seems to me that if you're at the point of worrying about a kill switch, you must not have much else on the car that needs attention. ;) 

Mr. KongaMan, I’m closing in on my level of satisfaction with my 63. I put in a kill switch. Seems to be a lot of thieves around my area. I’m sorry to say we’ve had robbers ride around in broad daylight and invade homes. I guess Baltimore area has more than its share of bad guys.

Once I get my steering box in, new emergency brake cable installedand number 4 vacuum diaphragm replaced all I have to do is wait for something to fail.

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As the instigator of this topic, I have to report that I am more than happy with choosing a solution using an existing switch to ground the ignition.

 

It is great peace of mind to park somewhere and know that you have done something to try to thwart joy riders ( car thieves by a nicer name) who might want to ruin your day. And my insurance policy asks that one be installed, so that was an incentive.

 

If I am parked for any length of time, I also use the battery isolation switch as a second deterrent.

 

1. I figure most young car thieves won’t know how to open the bonnet, they will be looking for the hood release cable.

1.1. A percentage will give up because the central locking will not open all doors.

1a. A certain percentage will give up because the won’t find the steering wheel, it’s on the wrong side down under.

1b. A small percentage won’t know how to release the park brake.

2. The battery isolation will fool another percentage of would be thieves.

3. The kill switch will deter the rest of the them.

 

Even while secured in our garage at home, the switch is active.

 

My suggestion is that the small effort required for the install is much easier to deal with compared to the nightmare that could be if you don’t!

 

Rodney ?????

 

 

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40 minutes ago, rodneybeauchamp said:

As the instigator of this topic, I have to report that I am more than happy with choosing a solution using an existing switch to ground the ignition.

 

Even while secured in our garage at home, the switch is active.

 

My suggestion is that the small effort required for the install is much easier to deal with compared to the nightmare that could be if you don’t!

 

Rodney ?????

 

 

 

  Well , dang, Rodney, you forgot to tell us what you used!:D

 

  Ben

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Just make sure you got the roa sticker on your car, that'll scare them away and make them think twice 

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Here's my contribution to deferring someone from stealing your car by driving it off.

 

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9 hours ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

 

  Well , dang, Rodney, you forgot to tell us what you used!:D

 

  Ben

 

Let me give you a cryptic clue.

 

My Riviera came with a Sonomatic AM radio with manual antennae as you will see in the photo below ?  

 

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18 minutes ago, rodneybeauchamp said:

 

Let me give you a cryptic clue.

 

My Riviera came with a Sonomatic AM radio with manual antennae as you will see in the photo below ?  

 

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The power antenna switch next to the courtesy light switch. 

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On 5/31/2018 at 12:32 PM, offdensen said:

I've been weighing my options for a kill switch but in the mean time I've always just opened the hood and taken the coil wire out. Ain't going anywhere without it, at least I can hope 

Sir, maybe you are taking your cool Riv out for an event and your are “ cleaned up” for proper company. Do you want to raise the hood and remove the coil wire? In case you come back and it is dark and you’ve had an adult beverage it could be hard to see under the hood. Of course, you could have a flashlight under the hood in a safe place. I’m not making fun by any means, I thought Ofremoving the coil wire myself. Knowing me I’ll end up with half the dirt from the engine on my clean shirt while trying; to remove the coil.

in case you missed it, I filled my ash tray with silver coins to hide the switch. I laid a spare key on top the coins, but the switch is activated. Only an idea.

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Can someone tell me the last time their Riviera was stolen by being driven away?  You might be better off installing an alarm system.  

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I was just thinking about this last night for my 65.  I was trying to think up a way to do it by hiding it in plain sight without having to drill new holes.  Next I've got to get creative on door locks because I'd prefer not to have an alarm.  

 

I live in a nice enough neighborhood but there was an idiotic law passed in 2014 known as "Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act" where you get a citation for theft under $950.  Since then there has been an unpleasant uptick in vandalism and petty theft.  Big box home stores have cameras beeping ever 2 minutes when you're down many of the aisles because they can get robbed for less than $950 and if they catch the putz and call the police all they can do is give them a citation and send them on their way.  Officer friend told me he saw the same guy get 2 citations in the same day and there's nothing they can do about it.

 

While I know my 65 is worth well more than $950, I've seen what obscure parts are going for on e-bay and craigslist lately and they can really screw me over on some of the harder to find stuff if they know what they're shopping for.  I've had several neighbors in a two mile radius who had their garage doors pried open and tools taken so I'm very wary now.  I've got my house wired up with automation so any door lock or garage door opens I get a text about it.  If they get creative to get past that then they'll be greeted by my 120lb Rottweiler and his two terrier henchmen who are very devoted to protecting our home and the classic car that takes them to the park and dog beach.

 

I restored a 57 T-Bird at 15 y/o and put in a kill so it would only start in neutral.  I lived in LA and from time to time I'd get stuck at a place with only valet parking so I'd leave it running and tell them where to park it so they don't have to move it only to return and before I give them my ticket to pull it up they're asking me why it wouldn't start...  Nobody was going to Ferris Bueller my car!  ?  It even tricked my dad and he helped me put it in!

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6 hours ago, BetsytheRiv said:

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 If they get creative to get past that then they'll be greeted by my 120lb Rottweiler and his two terrier henchmen who are very devoted to protecting our home and the classic car that takes them to the park and dog beach.

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Out of topic but as you touch on it:

what do you have in place to protect the interior when you have the dogs in the car?

Our mix breed is tiny compared to your giant (only 70lb) and I love to have her in the car but haven’t got a great solution to protect the interior from her as most that is available is hanging on the modern front seats head rests.

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2 hours ago, RivNut said:

My favorite mix bread is Light Rye and Pumpernickel.  ?

I would invite you over for a bite although it might be more of a dog bite than a sandwich snack ?

Corrected.

 

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6 hours ago, SwedeDownUnderR63 said:

I would invite you over for a bite although it might be more of a dog bite than a sandwich snack ?

Corrected.

 

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16 hours ago, SwedeDownUnderR63 said:

Out of topic but as you touch on it:

what do you have in place to protect the interior when you have the dogs in the car?

Our mix breed is tiny compared to your giant (only 70lb) and I love to have her in the car but haven’t got a great solution to protect the interior from her as most that is available is hanging on the modern front seats head rests.

 

Hi,

we had three small dogs who were full on in the car, so bought some short leads from a pet shop that fitted into the rear seat belt buckles and a harness for each dog. We also had some heavy blankets to protect the seats (it wasn’t the Riviera though)

They tolerated them until we got to the beach or the park. 

 

We also had a spray bottle of water to keep them from barking their heads off in unison. Cassie, the Jack Russell Terrorist was the instigator of all their mischief. Looking at her photo, butter wouldn’t melt............

 

 

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I have a simple thick fleece blanket I put across the back bench on top of a sheet of the foamy/gripper shelf liner stuff and it keeps the blanket from shifting.  The two little ones each have a small donut bed that goes on the back seat floor on either side which they are happy nesting in.  Occasionally we would go to dog beach and they'd get sloppy so I made quick fleece pillowcase type covers for the two front seats that I just slide on and off for easy cleaning.  The fleece does a pretty good job of repelling the water instead of absorbing it.  I'm considering having little clip points put in behind the rear seat when I get it re-upholstered so I can make an apron that would hang over the back but I'm meticulous about bathing and brushing my pups so they aren't really any more likely to leave marks on the seats than someone with some light dust on their clothes.  They usually don't get too pawsy around the door panels but when we get close to the beach the Italian Greyhound likes to stand on the console so I have a little hand towel I put down so his razor sharp claws don't annihilate the veneer.  (yes I clip and Dremel them but they are so narrow it's hard for them not to be pointy).  The real fun is trying to get all of the nose prints off the metal and windows once they're home and peacefully sleeping inside exhausted from the excursion...  

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On 6/6/2018 at 8:45 PM, BetsytheRiv said:

I was just thinking about this last night for my 65.  I was trying to think up a way to do it by hiding it in plain sight without having to drill new holes.  Next I've got to get creative on door locks because I'd prefer not to have an alarm.  

 

I live in a nice enough neighborhood but there was an idiotic law passed in 2014 known as "Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act" where you get a citation for theft under $950.  Since then there has been an unpleasant uptick in vandalism and petty theft.  Big box home stores have cameras beeping ever 2 minutes when you're down many of the aisles because they can get robbed for less than $950 and if they catch the putz and call the police all they can do is give them a citation and send them on their way.  Officer friend told me he saw the same guy get 2 citations in the same day and there's nothing they can do about it.

 

While I know my 65 is worth well more than $950, I've seen what obscure parts are going for on e-bay and craigslist lately and they can really screw me over on some of the harder to find stuff if they know what they're shopping for.  I've had several neighbors in a two mile radius who had their garage doors pried open and tools taken so I'm very wary now.  I've got my house wired up with automation so any door lock or garage door opens I get a text about it.  If they get creative to get past that then they'll be greeted by my 120lb Rottweiler and his two terrier henchmen who are very devoted to protecting our home and the classic car that takes them to the park and dog beach.

 

I restored a 57 T-Bird at 15 y/o and put in a kill so it would only start in neutral.  I lived in LA and from time to time I'd get stuck at a place with only valet parking so I'd leave it running and tell them where to park it so they don't have to move it only to return and before I give them my ticket to pull it up they're asking me why it wouldn't start...  Nobody was going to Ferris Bueller my car!  ?  It even tricked my dad and he helped me put it in!

Great idea. The car has to be in neutral to start. Outstanding.

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Baffles me how few of people under 40 realize you can actually start a car in neutral.  

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